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Beehaw admin is such a fucking liar wtf

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Beehaw is a community of individuals and therefore does not have any specific political affiliation. At this point in time, we do not know what the political leanings of most of our users are. I would suspect that many of them would identify as progressive because we are explicitly a safe space for ...

Some of the instances that we have chosen to defederate with have explicit political stances and ideologies. Their political stance and ideology had nothing to do with the choice to defederate. The choice to defederate was based on the amount of hate speech present on the instance and/or explicitly endorsing it.

What fucking hate speech, you weasly, lying shitlib. Your kind cheers on Russian deaths, calling them “orcs”, then you have the audacity to accuse us of hate speech? Go on, make more orientalist posts about China, and then come back and lecture us on hate speech.

The only “hate speech” I have is the hate for your dogshit, genocidal politics.

Our instance explicitly disallows and bans bigotry, and he’s going around posting this shit

Edit: And thinking about it more, the admins are basically agreeing going "fuck the devs we would switch off if we could", after everything the devs did to placate them, offering to pay for server hosting, putting them and not us on the reccomended server list, explicitly pinning posts asking people to go else where, and they're still shitting on them for "muh evil tankies!!!". The devs should have never listened to these whining liberals, and I think should maybe defederate from beehaw themselves like holy fuck you can't trust liberals for anything

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  • Your kind cheers on Russian deaths, calling them “orcs”, then you have the audacity to accuse us of hate speech? Go on, make more orientalist posts about China, and then come back and lecture us on hate speech.

    That's almost precisely the point. These shitlibs don't consider that type of speech "political." They have such a warped idea of what politics is. That kind of speech isn't hateful and political in their tiny brains, it's "common sense" and apolitical. Politics for them is exclusively Team Red vs. Team Blue, or whatever the local colours are.

  • I, I have no words, WE went though all of this, they tried to get us blackballed because we were communists, lead the charge to get every instance to block us because we refused to be liberals, and now they are saying that, our being communist had nothing to do with defederating? Do they expect us to have no memory, or do they expect the new exidus to fall for it, and renew the push on Lemmy.ml and Lemmy.world ect. to blackball us agian. We have and always will stand aganst hate speech and against fascism. If you bothered to listen to us maybe you would know that, but once more all I can say is BEEHAW SHAKES FIST

  • Our instance explicitly disallows and bans bigotry, and he’s going around posting this shit

    Also note that basically everyone banned for bigotry on lemmy was from beehaw, sopuli, feddit and other lib instance. Even Dessalines activated when the shitlibs started malding about being banned and told them it is how it is.

  • Honestly, ban 'em all to a man, tear down their instance, and blacklist the creation of names like it, I say. They wanna whinge, whine, mald, and tantrum about the kinds of people who built this motherfucker for them, the people who had this place warm for them when they first turned up and started colonizing, cool.

    They clearly don't need the hard drive space they're taking up. Fuck 'em, fuck their feelings, fuck what flimsy 'convictions' they have, fuck their mealy-mouthed mod staff.

  • How do liberals not suffocate under the burden of their own farts?

    Pictured below: Pearl clutching liberals "soft" forking Lemmy with no code changes for "moral reasons"

  • I like how liberals will seriously consider refusing free food, if they suspect the anonymous donor has Karl Marx undies. Do they expect to defeat the actual Nazis by politely declining to buy goods made in concentration camps?

    Crackpot theory: Beehaw or a conglomerate of lib instances will become owned by an entrepreneur group, then try to pull the good ol' MS EEE on the rest over time. Call it Digg v3.

  • Gotta love the Lockheed Martin left.

  • Beehaw should fork actually. That would be really funny.

  • the only kind of politics that are banned here are those which enable hate speech such as fascism

    What's with all the backlash? They just announced they're banning anything promoting the US state (ergo CIA) or NATO. Sounds like a W to me.

    Jokes aside and at the risk of sounding like an armchair intellectual, this is sort of a small scale experiment proving why liberals make peaceful progress impossible. Dating back to the colonial era, they love writing walls and walls of vague idealist text (especially the part about the psychology of internet users reads like a middle schooler padding out an essay) about the moral virtue of their actions to distract from the fact they are shamelessly plundering, murdering and exploiting others. In this relatively harmless case, exploiting the devs ideological conviction and choice to show vulnerability. Using their resources to take the platform for their own, despite quite ironically being in direct in violation of their own conceptions of intellectual property that are supposed to be so non-negotiable.

    Maybe that's why liberals are such firm believers in private property to begin with. Not due to principle, but because they project their shameless opportunism on us all; they fear others will do to them what they have done and continue to do to their vulnerable targets of choice.

  • But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations.

  • If it wasn't politically motivated then why is Hexbear blocked when it's not even a federated instance yet? You know, the only lemmy in existence that enforces visible pronouns by every single username... Hatespeech? Bullshit.

  • Do you really expect anything less from a group run by Feds and fed adjacent bootlickers? The feds were probably the first ones to jump at making those instances. It's literally their job to attack communist idealology at every chance.

  • Me after reading the quote from the beehaw admin: coughing Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit

  • We center and promote kindness because that is what we see and love in the world.

    🫠

  • What the hell is a beehaw anyway? Sounds like a shitty corporate name for an app nobody needs.

  • I support beehaw forking so I don't have to see their shit takes every time I go on lemmy.ml for the actual discussions.

  • Thats a lot of words.

  • Is it just a formatting thing or is that just one long ass paragraph?

  • Beehaw is a community of individuals and therefore does not have any specific political affiliation.

    Yep. Lies in the very first sentence. The Myth of Neutrality.

  • I created my first account on beehaw, but when i realized that they blocked this instance I created a lemmy.ml account. I engaged with someone on that post who was surprised that hate speech was being thrown around here. I said "it's because theyre marxist leninist, go look for yourself" and they were so confused because there was no hate speech to be found. Essentially they were like "um I don't agree with MLs on a lot of things, but they aren't nazis. So what's the issue?" So I'm positive that there are people being turned away who otherwise would want to interact with y'all.

    It's pretty fucked that they are equating discourse here to hate speech because of course people aren't going to do their own investigating. They will just assume that yall are planning the next white uprising and flinging the F slur around.

  • From what I've heard, that admin and others on that instance used to be active users on an invitation-only, centralized reddit clone. I don't understand why they didn't build their site on postmill or some other unfederated platform if their intention was to defederate from the vast majority of the network when it started gaining traction.

    EDIT: For the downvoter: to be clear, I'm not criticizing Beehaw for their decision - I'm criticizing the timing for their decision. While it's better for them to defederate now before the real tidal wave of refugees arrives, they still waited until a lot of users from other instances had discovered their communities & had started relying on them. So to defederate when they did is at worst callous and at best an indication that their admins lack foresight.

    It's fine that they want a walled garden, especially when that's the type of community their admins are used to moderating. I might not understand it (leftypol represent!), but experience tells me that there's always going to be a demand for echo chambers no matter the platform and that it's useless to try and fight that.

  • [dismissive masturbatory hand gesture] the actually vaguely progressive people that got conned into going there instead of an actually decent lefty instance are in for a fun surprise in a couple months.

  • Beehaw is a massive fucking joke.

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