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I'm running 4 Debian machines, all configured to automatically update every night, and this has never happened to me.
I've come to notice that a lot of Linux memery is always related to anecdotal impressions or events prevalent around 2 to 3 decades ago. That or fringe stuff that 99% of users wouldn't ever even consider to do in the first place.
i added 10 different ppa to my sources.list and it broke everything!!! why did debian do this?!?
In other words, grasping at straws.
I've been on Linux for about twenty five years and Debian has been the most painless. I'm currently on Pop!_OS on my daily driver laptop and plan to use LMDE in the future for everything without an NVidia GPU in it. Simply put, I ain't got time to tinker and fight my personal computer when I am being paid to fix enterprise production environments.
"update" here referring to the version update, eg bullseye to bookworm. hence the title sources.lists
because version updates disable all ppas.
Also, because of the "stable" nature of things, instead of a slow trickle of updates, when you finally update the version, you get a flood of updates. Changing from $PACKAGE version 5 to $PACKAGE version 9 very likely has breaking config changes... Avoiding breaking config changes is the entire purpose of a "stable" distro right?
If on arch, you get those breaking changes once a month, a two year release cycle means that the update to the next debian will have 24 breaking changes involved that you get to deal with all at the same time, while accounting for the fact that your /etc/apt/sources.list.d are all disabled.
The meme text itself refers to "frequent" updates. Seems weird to compare apples to oranges, since release updates are not frequent. Even still, updating from buster to bookworm was relatively painless; certainly not 3 hours of reconfiguration. Before that, I was on Ubuntu, and the release updates were also painless; I remember multiple times not needing to do anything except uncomment the sources.list(.d) changes.
[edit: Another quick point. Since Debian/Ubuntu manage configuration for you to some extent, you don't need to fix configuration files as often as you would need to on Arch, hence not needing to do ~20+ config changes for two years of updates all at once.]
Us Debian users aren't used to frequent updates.
Are you updating Debian on a potato with every single one of the 74000+ packages installed? Because even on my slowest machines (going back decades) it's never taken anywhere near that kind of time to complete a full version upgrade, let alone just an update.
I had an update take like 20 minutes
Though that was primarily caused by the machine having like 200kBps download speed
It took me something like 5 hours to upgrade from Devuan ASCII to Daedalus (3 dist upgrades), and ensuring stuff still worked between versions.
Currently my Linux installs broke as often as my windows ones. However in Linux I am to blame 70% of the times it broke.
On windows maybe 10%
And from my experience the Linux crashes and broke OS went down a hefty rate in the last 10 years. The windows only a little bit.
If this continues it's going to be more stable to tinker in Linux than windows.
I literally never have that problem with Debian. Iโve had it with Ubuntu thoughโฆ
This software update has been out for a year, so there is a bunch of documentation on how to configure it!
Bro, with open BSD, by the third hour you already realized this is a lifetime commitment akin to buying a boat, having children and marrying, all in near clusterfuck package surrounded by sharks
me with my fedora atomic changing version, DE and shit, automatic update, with non-fedora repos enabled and shutting down in the middle of an transaction don't giving a fuck ๐
Shit poster who's never used Debian makes shitpost about Debian. ๐ฉ
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