You're viewing a single thread.
They do believe the car thing. A relative of a friend told me she didn't want Biden to take away her Honda CRV because she liked it so much. She seemed to think it was a nearly done deal, Biden's coming to reclaim all fossil-fueled powered vehicles and make everyone buy electric cars. I didn't ask for details.
Of course, the Republicans are standing strong against this atrocity.
So this is the new "Obama's gonna take all your guns!!1!" trope.
Which of course he didn't. Either of the times the GOP leaders said he would. And they knew it. It was just to create hysteria among their base.
Yep, though the gun manufacturers, via the NRA, probably drive that one. They LOVE it when a Democrat is in office because they can say that and watch gun sales rise.
I'm convinced they also love shootings, or at least did, for similar reasons - I'm sure, for a while, gun owners worried this latest shooting might be the one that generates new restrictions on gun purchases, so out they went to buy. At this point I don't think they have anything to worry about; we as a country seem to have decided mass shootings are Just Great, so that little fear probably doesn't work as well any more.
Let's never forget the NRA's solution to school shootings, after Newtown, was literally, "More guns in schools."
Obama didn't increase firearm restrictions, but Trump did with the bump stock ban. Which, incidentally, is due to be overturned by the Supreme Court this year.
It wasn't for lack of trying though, because Obama did call for and back legislation to ban certain scary guns. Their attempts at the taking of guns simply failed the standard legislative process. Many of you probably weren't of voting age at the time, but this process of attempting to take the guns actually did happen during the Obama presidency.
I was of voting age in 2008. Banning or heavily regulating certain types of guns is not the same as sending the national guard into every home in the US to search for and confiscate them, which is exactly what conservatives have been saying will happen for at least a decade now. Iirc trump banned some kind of bump-stock-adjacent device, but I don't recall any gangs of roving feds going door to door to round up all the ones that have already been purchased.
Moving the goalposts, not allowed. I will return the discussion back to course.
Banning of guns is what people generally think of as "$politician taking the guns" and is what drives 2A voters to vote against $politician. In the above discussion we were discussing Obama, and he did in fact do what I said he did.
Oh no!
ObamaBiden is coming for yourgunscars! Only our guy can save from this totally real danger!I know why politicians claim it, because taking away something that belongs to someone is an affront to them the way "regulations requiring manufacturers to adhere to climate friendlier standards" isn't, but it's such an annoying instant radicalization people make.
Finding out gas stoves cause a significant percentage of childhood asthma and some states proposing a subsequent ban on household gas in new builds only became "BIDEN WANTS TO MAKE YOUR GAS STOVE ILLEGAL". Subsidies for electric cars became "BIDEN BANNING GAS CARS" etc etc.
I now wonder how much damage I did to myself sitting around camp fires for so much of my childhood.
Probably some, but the real problem is when it's enclosed indoors I believe.
Just raw economics will win them over long run. EV will be price parity at some point not in the too distant future. In those sunny southern state, where solar + EV is just such a clear win, the rolling coal inbreds just can't not see it.
Depending on the generation of CR-V, I suppose - and without any hard math/stats despite how hard I've tried - I suspect the net impact of your relative driving it for the rest of its usable life vs buying a brand new EV to be significantly less, considering Lithium mining, curb weight, etc.
...... I'm not sure why you're telling me this. Also, it's not my relative.