Online ‘Pedophile Hunters’ Are Growing More Violent — and Going Viral: With the rise of loosely moderated social media platforms, a fringe vigilante movement is experiencing a dangerous evolution.
Online ‘Pedophile Hunters’ Are Growing More Violent — and Going Viral: With the rise of loosely moderated social media platforms, a fringe vigilante movement is experiencing a dangerous evolution.
With the rise of loosely moderated social media platforms, a fringe vigilante movement is experiencing a dangerous evolution.
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Let’s be real- we know who they’re catching. I’m fine with this. Keep on doing whatever to MAGA trash.
Well, I get you are trying to state that MAGA people are pedofiles, and I am not here to stop you from that. But you also assume they catch actual pedofiles. However, there are cases where they have contacted people with an intellectual disability, and then you cannot be really sure the person really is sexually in to children, since with enough pushing you can get such persons to agree to a meeting anyway... just because you pushed. Regardless of how awful the crime is, we cannot accept vigilantes.
This crew also confuses homosexuals with pedophiles, so be careful on Grindr, k?
Exactly. Some of these vigilantes are using this act as a cover to conduct violence against LGBT people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_grooming_conspiracy_theory
Also many of these "vigilantes" are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. This is a popular subgenre of hate-porn on YouTube that gets a lot of attention. I wouldn't trust anyone who does this for clout and attention to put in the work that is needed to ensure that they get the right person since you can just about fake any evidence on a YouTube video. This is the equivalent of giving a homeless person thousands of dollars and putting it on YouTube for views.
I remember looking up the people To Catch A Predator worked with and reading some of their chat logs. The decoy was always very upfront in giving an age unambiguously below the age of consent in their jurisdiction, and never initiated conversation about sex or suggested meeting in person.
Of course, the decoy would always agree to do so if the offender asked, but the criminal conduct was unambiguously criminal, and unambiguously the offender's idea. What we see in this article appears to abandon that sort of rigor to manufacture more opportunities to confront someone.
What we see in this article appears to abandon that sort of rigor to manufacture more opportunities to confront someone.
Aka entrapment.
Yes, though legally that's a bit of a grey area. It's only really entrapment if law enforcement or informants entice the offender to commit a crime they weren't predisposed to commit. I imagine it would be an uphill battle to convince a judge or jury of that when it comes to meeting minors for sex.
The decoys were careful so that it would never even be a question.
It is not technically entrapment because they aren't police, but they are cosplaying as cops so the label gets the point across.
real cops do this too, though not execution style.
The word pedophile is so weirdly used. If an older man or lady meets a 16 year old.. their technically not one, but in this day of age.. they would be consider one to society..but they would be consider a Sex Offender. Depending on Level 1 or 2.. all depends on what they did and if their state will think they will re-offend or not. Most Level 1’s do not.
It's not weirdly used. Society always determines what is appropriate. We've decided, as a society, that humans cannot consent until 18. And any sex without consent is rape.
That said, what is weird is that we conflate pedo and child rapist. You're describing child rapists.
We’ve decided, as a society, that humans cannot consent until 18.
Older criminal laws were based on that idea, usually called "statutory rape". Modern laws about sexual abuse of children usually ignore the concept of consent entirely to allow for more nuance.
One example of nuance is exceptions for people close in age so that non-abusive relationships between teenagers don't suddenly become crimes when someone has a birthday. Another is that consent is often a factor in the severity of the penalty.
Yes and that's completely fair. It's about the imbalance of power. An 18 y.o. and one day, is exactly the same as they were two days prior.
But the cutoff has to be somewhere, and the guy I was replying to was talking about proper adults and 16 y.o.
That's a highschool sophomore. And I think we'd all agree a sophomore dating a college student would be pretty imbalanced.
The age of consent in many developed countries is 16.
And I think we’d all agree a sophomore dating a college student would be pretty imbalanced.
I was a college student at 17, but I think you had a larger age difference in mind. I do think we can all agree there should be laws against adults sexually exploiting teenagers.
consent is often a factor in the severity of the penalty
If there's no consent, it's sexual assault at a minimum and more likely rape.
Somebody should tell society their laws need to catch up with that decision!
Your society might have in mine a 14 year old can consent and it wouldn't be considered rape in that case, still a crime though.
Found the Libertarian
Regardless of how awful the crime is, we cannot accept vigilantes.
Speak for yourself.
MAGA would deport you for having the wrong color skin regardless of your citizenship. I’m find with ruining their lives regardless of any crimes committed. This wouldn’t have been the case a couple years ago- but things have changed.
You sound just like them...
we know who they’re catching.
No. No you do not.
"We know who they are. We don't really need due process. I'm not one of those people so nothing bad could ever happen to me so I don't care"
Seriously, the amount of times I see violations of civil/human rights being acceptable because they're "the enemy" is really sad. Do you have no self awareness? That's EXACTLY what they're doing to you. Stop being a pot of crabs pulling us back in. Be better.
This is what i'm imagining: Hey and welcome to the kill people yt channel! Like and subscribe. Hey chat, we need money for a new camera. Anyone know any pedos we can go and kill? Sounds like chat doesn't like this whodrankarnoldpalmer. Sounds like a sus guy. If we reach our donation we will drag him behind our car for you guys. We will be puting this guys fingers on ebay btw, so look out for that.
Hang on- do you think this is not EXACTLY what will be coming from the alt-right sooner than later? I mean, for your sake, I hope you’re right- I don’t live in the states- I live in a developed country where I’m somewhat more insulated from this garbage. Feel free to wait around and see how it shakes out, I guess.
My god you're thick. The point is that those are exactly the sort of people who are doing this shit.
You think they are going after Maga? Most of them aren't even going after pedofiles!
Sounds like an opportunity, then
How old are you?
14/f/cali
No they stay away from their family members, they're likely just going after people they hate.