Google is reportedly experimenting with forced DRM on all YouTube videos
Google is reportedly experimenting with forced DRM on all YouTube videos
youtube’s been testing various ways of limiting access, both for downloaders and real users with adblockers most fucked up experiment being forced DRM for ALL videos, even those that are licensed as CC: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues/12563 feels like it will only get worse from now on 🫠
If rolled out widely, this would make web browsers and third-party YouTube clients without a DRM license unusable for YouTube playback, download, etc. This would include almost all open-source web browsers and almost all third-party YouTube clients. Archive link to reddit post about this
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Y'all could just pay 🤷♂️
Make the app worth paying for. I pay for Nebula because its worth it
Then don't use it f you like nebula. Why are you all wasting time bitching about an app that's not worth it?
Because they are thieves and hate having that pointed out to them
👌👍🤡
How's that boot taste?
Better than being poor and delusional about being entitled to steal 🤣
I honestly love the bootlicker tag. It tells me everything I need to know about your alignment with reality. You just want to be mad to argue on the Internet. Nothing based in reality to offer. A sad deplorable existence.
Woah now, be careful or you'll choke on all that corpo dick.
Keep on going, almost there
It's always ethical to steal from billion dollar corporations
Okay, but you have the expectations of them making it easy?
Folks in here feel entitled to the easy of blocking ads while simultaneously decrying the value of the service and refusal to pay.
I've never actually found it difficult to bypass the ads, despite their attempts. Literally, at least for now, you can use uBlock to block the warning lol
life finds a way
I do pay and I use SmartTube. If it stops working, I'll stop paying.
The only legit complaint in this thread. I agree, that sucks ass. Shit like that makes stuff like f1tv(garbage app) bearable. I'd have quit without F1 multiviewer.
I used to when the price was fair for family plan, but now I'm on the high seas. It's a price issue, they are making billions , no need to fleece us.
False. Fake news. You've just invented that out of nowhere like a desperate trumpet who doesn't know how to use Google.
YT has never made a dime unless that's changed in the last year. YT has always been a loss leader.
Stop lying to win internet arguments. It's pathetic and sad.
Your info is very outdated, YouTube made billions in profit for years already
It doesn't matter what YouTube makes. They belong to google, and the data they harvest goes to google as well. Their algorithm's influence on what people see and on their opinions contributes to google's success and political interests, just as Xitter does for Musk. And by staying "free" to use, they ensure that no competitor will likely rise up and take those benefits from them. If they try to shut out third party apps and browsers, that's because by forcing people into Chrome they can harvest even more data.
I know you’re getting downvoted here but there is a valid question there. It’s the largest streaming site on the internet which takes up massive amounts of storage and bandwidth. How do people propose it’s paid for? You generally either have to have ads (which it seems everyone hates) or you pay for a subscription (which everyone hates). So what is the best model to offset that cost? It’s not a public service.
The problem isn't ads or subscription fees, the problem is ads and subscription fees in addition to the data scraping. Google, and by extension Youtube, harvest your data from all over the internet and use it to sell ads. The data and CAPTCHAs you see all over from Google are trackers (that's how clicking a box can determine you're human) that ars harvesting data and fingerprinting your device to make you easier to identify.
In 2025, do you really want a demonstrably evil company that supports the American kleptocracy to have access to your data?
In comes freetube and invidious: responses to the above problem. By acting proxy to youtube you avoid the ads (which contain spyware) and you avoid downloading site data from Google (which likely contains spyware).
It isn't a payment issue, and the pirates aren't upset about costs, it's just that in the age of glass walls online, we want our fucking privacy back.
Okay. So if they were willing to stop the data scraping, how many people do you think would be willing to pay for a subscription or increased ads to offset the costs?
More than you'd think, but if folks are like myself than not as many as g-daddy would need to justify the switch to a more legitimate model.
Personally, when a company unilaterally decides it can do whatever the 🦆 it wants with my data, I believe that road goes both ways, so I'll do whatever the 🦆 I want with theirs. Including downloading it without paying.
None of them. You know this answer. They would screech if it were $50 a month.
Just bring up kagi and see how many folks make up excuses why they suck and ain't worth it.
They just want a post facto reason to justify their pirating and stealing. They never were going to pay.
None of them.
Yeah. That's why Netflix went out of business so quickly.
You don't think Netflix scrapes your data to offset the price?
Y'all jumping through some wild hoops to win an internet argument 🤣
You're acting like A) it's not part of a company pulling down billion dollar profits and B) any loss isn't being used to depress tax paid by other arms of said company
Part of the reason why I self-host is to avoid being tracked under my real identity that is required for payment. No way I’m paying a big corpo with a surveillance capitalist business model to spy on me to avoid their ads. Sounds akin to paying the mafia for protection.
I support that. Why do you care about drm of YouTube then if you aren't using it?
Obviously, you know the answer. Yes, I take your point about paying for something that provides value, and generally would agree if not for the corrupt political system that allows a corporation like Google to have the near complete hedgemony that YouTube enjoys. As it stands, there are basically 4 choices right now:
- Watch ads and let them spy on you
- Pay them while they still spy on you with a guaranteed real identity
- Use smaller platforms that have few creators contributing content, many of which are for-profit and may one day go public and turn into something resembling Google today
- Use ad blockers / alternative clients to have your cake and eat it too.
Since Google also wants to have their cake and eat it too by charging you while still tracking you, and at the same time, mistreating the users and creators responsible for their success, it follows that the members of a left-leaning and tech-savvy community like Lemmy would overwhelmingly choose option 4 while also doing option 3 whenever possible.
We already do, and this is what we get.
Do people not recognize obvious bait anymore? Why did this comment get so much engagement?
It's not bait. I think the service offers value and is worth the $15 a month if you use it a lot.
This is the media equivalent of leaving a shit steam review with 2000 hours clocked.
$15/yr and I'd be down. $15/mo can eat my ass.
This is the media equivalent of leaving a shit steam review with 2000 hours clocked.
There's a vast difference between Steam being good, and the content in Steam being good.
Not when I can't even get a DRM-free MP3 from the payments. If I could, I'd reconsider that.
I know I know, that's how the world works. You as the buyer get to set the terms 🤣