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  • The freedom fighters in history are my very favorite heroes. I have never wanted to be one. Electing competent leaders always seemed like a much better plan. I really hope I never have to put in the hard work of using my body to protect my loved ones and friends. I hate that I’m even having to think about this.

    • Electing competent leaders always seemed like a much better plan

      Agreed. If only there had been any to choose from. Instead you get a choice between "maintain the fire burning down your house and sometimes stoke it" and "throw gasoline on it" 😮‍💨

      • "maintain the fire burning down your house and sometimes stoke it" and "throw gasoline on it" 😮‍💨

        Fucking. Bullshit.

        Get the fuck out of here with "both sides" cold takes.

        • YOU get the fuck out of here with your "criticizing one side while making clear that the other is much worse is the same thing as saying that both sides are the same" bullshit.

          Just because Republicans are much worse doesn't mean that Democrats are exempt from criticism when they're not doing their job of faithfully representing the interests of the people. ESPECIALLY when it leads to Republicans winning elections.

          • Your criticism of democrats is either dumb or/and disingenuous.

            they're not doing their job of faithfully representing the interests of the people.

            Straight up misinformation. In addition to fixing the economy, Biden administration forgave $175 billions in student loans, lowered unemployment, passed PACT act, CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, expanded healthcare, appointed Lina Khan on FTC, someone who's going as hard as she can against corporates. FTC banned non-compete clauses under her leadership.

            There are multiple different reports about Biden administration's work, if you care to look.

            Of course the administration had to navigate through the real world challenges and they couldn't manage to wave a wand and turn USA into utopia.

            But to ignore the work they've done and say

            "they maintain the fire burning down your house and sometimes stoke it"

            is abso-fucking-lutely stupid.

            You're as misinformed as Fox News viewer.

            And now we have example of Brandolini's law, "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it."

            Took you less than a minutes to be callously ignorant and it took me 15 minutes to refute it, not for you but for others who might click this thread.

            Get informed or get fucked.

            • I recognize both of y'all from around here and you both often have decent takes. Maybe take a step back and try to salvage things between each other, I know it'd be worth it. Peace.

            • Your criticism of democrats is either dumb or/and disingenuous.

              Nope. It's accurate.

              Straight up misinformation

              Thanks for starting your paragraph with a section heading so I know what's coming.

              fixing the economy

              The stock market and other indicators that the rich is doing well, you mean. The vast majority of regular people are doing worse today than before covid and Trump's criminal mishandling of it demolished everything.

              Biden administration forgave $175 billions in student loans

              That's an inflated number. The loan forgiveness has been a drop in the bucket compared to the full scope of the problem, means tested to hell and back, and with reams of paperwork required to even be considered. That's not what the people wills.

              lowered unemployment

              According to cherrypicked numbers that only counts the newly unemployed and actively job-seeking.

              The millions of people who have been unemployed for a long time and finally given up aren't represented in the statistics you and your favorite demagogues are so proud of.

              passed PACT act

              CONGRESS passed that. After dozens of veterans camped outside the capital for days in protest of their inaction.

              CHIPS act

              Giant giveaway to exploitative corporations

              infrastructure bill

              Same, but with bragging about minimal climate change mitigation improvements while downplaying 10 million acres of new federal fossil fuel land leases.

              expanded healthcare

              Another case of the people wanting a mile, needing half a mile to barely get by without being forced to choose between death or lifelong debt, and getting an inch.

              appointed Lina Khan on FTC

              Admittedly a great thing done as a concession to the much more progressive people who suggested her. Same with Lauren McFerran at the NLRB. Doesn't mean that Biden gets personal credit for their work.

              There are multiple different reports about Biden administration's work, if you care to look.

              I have been. Seemingly unlike you, though, my sources have not been limited to those that are effectively pro-DNC propaganda outlets.

              Of course the administration had to navigate through the real world challenges and they couldn't manage to wave a wand and turn USA into utopia.

              The eternal excuse of the incompetent and the corrupt. Nobody's demanding perfection. You're just far too easily impressed and/or blinded by tribalism.

              But to ignore the work they've done

              I'm not ignoring anything. Again, my standards are just higher than your abyssal ones.

              You're as misinformed as Fox News viewer.

              Hey, I found this picture of you!

              And now we have example of Brandolini's law, "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it."

              Again with the projection. Your gish gallop is demagogue propaganda, not proof of anything.

              Took you less than a minutes to be callously ignorant

              Nah, I was just concise in my accurate description of affairs. Not my fault that your apologia is as verbose as it's misleading.

              took me 15 minutes to refute it

              You refuted nothing. Only thing you were right about was Lina Khan, and that was one decision on the advice of better people in a 4 year period of D to C- governing.

              Get informed or get fucked.

              Right back at you, buddy.

            • Yeah, but all he'll be remembered for is his part in the Gaza genocide. History's funny that way.

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