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Americans: Never, EVER question again how Hitler came to power in 1933 Germany

Because you now did it to yourself.

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  • No, the base let themselves very much get rallied.

    They had a candidate that said "I'm not going to stop the genocide in Gaza" and one that went "I am fully pro-genocide in Gaza, and I want to burn it all down". And they all rallied behind the second one. This does tell me, as someone not from the US, one thing: A lot of voters in the US really dislike people from Gaza and want them to die. Fuck you people. Yes, I blame you voters. Fuck you.

    • No, the Democrats let their base get rallied by the Republicans, I don't blame the voters at all.

      And you're acting like people voted for Trump instead of Kamala, when it seems more like a lot of people who would have voted Kamala stayed home. And that's thanks to the Democrats running a centrist platform that didn't inspire anyone, Biden being a centrist Status-Quo democrat for four years, ignoring the Palestinian Protest Votes during the primaries, refusing to let any Palestinians speak at the DNC but allowing numerous Republicans to, while their best piece of policy to the average American was, "Hey, we're not Trump."

      I voted Harris, btw, but not because I liked her particularly much, and I think that's a big part of it. Democrats don't listen to their constituents, so their constituents stay home due to apathy. That's on the DNC, not the voters.

      • And you’re acting like people voted for Trump instead of Kamala, when it seems more like a lot of people who would have voted Kamala stayed home

        That's the exact same thing in a first-past-the-post voting system, sorry. I mean granted, if you wanted to support Trump anyways, you saved yourself the walk. Congrats. But that's the only difference, you supported Trump either way.

        And that’s thanks to the Democrats running a centrist platform that didn’t inspire anyone, Biden being a centrist Status-Quo democrat for four years, ignoring the Palestinian Protest Votes during the primaries, refusing to let any Palestinians speak at the DNC but allowing numerous Republicans to, while their best piece of policy to the average American was, “Hey, we’re not Trump.”

        And again it comes down to a singular issue? Again, that's why I blame the voters: If people so readily toss their intellect aside and become single-issue voters, feeding directly into this us-vs-them polemic that is so prevalent in the far right and the US in general, then they really ought to at least not blame anybody but themselves. It's easy to ignore a lot of good news if you hyperfocus on a single bad thing and just put your fingers into your ears.

        More so if you actually vote to make that single issue you care about worse. But hey, I'm not an american, apparently the majority wants to Genocide Turbo Edition in Gaza.

        Democrats don’t listen to their constituents, so their constituents stay home due to apathy. That’s on the DNC, not the voters.

        And again, this makes no sense. Hence me blaming voters for their own failings. It's like with the Brexit, although there at least there was the added thing that nobody expected the vote could ever come out as yes, so most just did not bother to go vote, felt unnecessary. Here, they very much knew that if they don't go to vote they're effectively voting for the orange potato fascist. And they still did it. So they're trump voters now. Stamped and classified. And I blame trump voters.

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        I'll go a step further: You are a voter ought to actively not want elections to be about marketing. Rather, you should be tracking whether the past electorate has actually improved things.

        So, under Biden:

        • Single families have more money than before.
        • Cost of living has gone down (despite the high inflation, which came out of Trump's administration after all, who had a huge bump to cost of living right at the tail end of his administration and yes, we're still not back to where we were before but c'mon, it got stricly bad under Trump and massively better again under Biden, what magical miracle did people expect after the potato ruined things so much?!)
        • Violent crime, in particular homicides, are far down.
        • Green spending is up by a ton. Still less than ideal, but damn did they fund a lot of new green tech, and it shows. Wasn't it something like 96% of new energy installed last year was green?
        • Social inequality decreased. (yeah I know this is surprising, which just goes to show how little we care about actual data and what sheep we all are)
        • Health care went up significantly (after it went down again under Trump)

        I mean, how many positive news do people really need? At what point is it okay if I blame the idiotic voters who actively choose to ignore it and listen to the right-wing media feeding them rage bait?

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