"Thus, tankie is now used to describe much more than the set of communists who supported specific events from the Soviet era. The term tankie now covers communists who support “actually existing socialist countries” (AES); especially those with a Stalinist or authoritarian leaning. Although there is not really a concrete definition, recent work by Petterson [ 94] provides a succinctdescription of tankie:

Tankies regard past and current socialist systems as legitimate attempts at creating communism, and thus have not distanced themselves from Stalin, China etc. "

Yes, well recognized, the term is vague and can mean everything or nothing. It does not make sense. There are people who see only the Soviet Union as a successful workers' revolution, but not the rest. For some, China represents revisionism, so does Vietnam, or North Korea, or Cuba, etc. I've met people who are all about Enver Hoxha, everything else is revisionism. That is such an enormous range of different views, yet they are all tankies. I've witnessed Trotskyites beeing called tankies because they are against NATO.

To work with such a stupid definition is absolute nonsense. I myself have been called a tankie often enough, because I keep pointing out that the term has no substance in historical and political discourse. I even never discussed something political. Pointing out, that this term is stupid is enough to be a tankie - my experience.

It has the same possibility to serve data to others as the SMART function of your hard serve does, if you use it together with a monitoring system.This is telemetry. You still dont understand what telemetry is, dont you?

This means the machine has the ability to serve data to others, to the network, and to the admin collecting it

You can activate the function to collect specific data, which can be send to somewhere else, if you wanrt so. You decide what happens. I am getting mail reports about my OPNsense Firewall if something is not going well. This is also telemetry. Those drivers simply can give you the possibility to access data natively. You have a direct API and you can work with it. Its same for SMART. It is the same. Even the information the sensors on your computer are showing to you, are exposed through a driver. Look here. You have to load modules. This modules are getting data. Telemetry.

And to answer what you wrote first:

Telemetry is a way for machines to passively allow another to collect data. Any chance this can be exploited? Why have it if your intention is a sole user/admin of a single machine?

Telemtry is away to collect data. Those "another" can probably be youself. So whats about lm_sensors, does the average user need the information how the voltage is? Answer it for yourself.

And also not everyone is a sole user/admin of a single machine. Even as a developer I am depending on log files which can be collected, so this all is quite handy. You still dont have a point.

With the complexities of a self regulated system as systemd such abilities can't be controlled or audited by a user, but look at what most users of linux have.

Dont switch the topic. Tell me what is bad about lm_sensors and SMART.

For non-industrial use no telemetry is needed or should be allowed.

dmesg not allowed anymore? Try "ip a" or "ifconfig". Be ready to receive some collected data.

But you pick up on a detail of what the original post is aiming to state to discredit it on a technicality that is meaningless.

No. The claim that the Linux kernel is likely to send collected data to large companies is a huge accusation. This would have tremendous implications. Back then there was already an outcry with a Linux distribution because the internet connectivity was checked by a ping to 8.8.8.8. And now the Linux kernel is sending telemetry data to big companies? Do you understand what this would mean? And also rust. But the rust thing has alreary been pointes out by an other user.

The point is DO NOT let your anti-windows rhetoric blind and confuse users that this is an easy and safe alternative that provides security, privacy, and other goodies, when 99% choose windows that is just as automated and "user friendly" as windows.

Never used anti-windows rhetoric.

You tell me if your average linux user (especially those using gnome and plasma) know where, how, and why to disable kernel modules. Whether those modules are optionally disabled, enabled, included in the kernel, or awaiting someone to trigger them. Look at forums and boards, people mess up their boot-loader or fstab and their ms-win reaction is to format the disk and reinstall something like ubuntu.

Stop pretending that those modules are collecting and sending something. You clearly dont understand what you are talking about. This is not a problem, but you pretend to understand it and repeat it over and over again. Those modules are not doing something bad. If you dont like that data is collected, try to remove /var/log somehow. And also disable dmesg somehow.

There is nothing wrong with being wrong and you can ask. But you are stating things as facts that are absolutely not true. You are absolutely stubborn (sorry, I have to say that) about telemetry. You don't understand the difference between data that is sent to a company and data that is made available through an interface. Telemetry for you means that somehow data is collected and then sent to Microsoft. And because the module in Linux has the word "telemetry" in its name, it is the same for you. You also don't understand that all monitoring programmes use telemetry, even htop. gkrellm has the possibility to connect externally, that is already telemetry that is sent.

You are also wrong about rust. Supply chain attacks are indeed a problem. This applies to every programing language and there is only little you can do about. Who said, that the rust developer even use modules from random third party? Thats the point.

You can say "Ok, I am wrong with that all, but my point about security still applies, because everything is complex and systemd etc". But stop insist on things that are obviously wrong.

And that is exactly the point. Working with many servers means that you have to collect data. How am I supposed to know when it's time to replace something and so on? I remember my boss not wanting to spend money on Nagios (servers etc.) until one day everything blew up. No one could work for two days. After that the idiot finally spent money on a monitoring system and you could finally see when the RAID failed.

No they cant. What are you talking about? Its like an agent writing specific things to /var/log. Telemetry means, that data is collected for your usage. Not for corporations. Intel PMT gives you the ability to access data. You can collect them and do stuff with them.

Have ever seen software which helps you to see how your assets are doing? Look at Nagios. This thing collects data from your assets and visualise it. And this is a kind of telemetry. With Nagios you can see when its time to replace your harddisks on a server because the SMART values are bad. This is all telemetry. And here you have a possibility in a driver to access certain stuff. No stupid workarounds, direct access. Access which is under your control. Have you ever seen a datacenter or worked somewhere, where you have to manage a bunch of servers? You can check every instance one by one or simply collect data and see whats going on.

You are simply misunderstanding the word "telemetry".

Show me the code, where something is beeing send to Intel. Not, that a module is loaded. Telemetry has also the meaning, that you collected data of your assets in a datacenter. I couldnt find anything in the code of Intel-PMT.

It is beeing used in datacenters. You load the module, you can aggregate your dara and then visualise it.

This as an example. I couldnt find anything how something is beeing sendet to Intel.

This is kind of telemetry which is usefull: The collected monitoring data is exposed to user-space via a new XML format for interested tools to parse.

And this for those wilco stuff. Also look here. I could not found anything, that it is going to be send to a corporation.

What is wrong if i have a bunch of servers and I want to collect telemetry data for them? I can collect them whereever I want.

There is no telemetry in the sense, that something is sendes to Intel. Look here. And this is quite hand, if you use Linux in a datacenter

I dont really understand your point. What is so bad about those telemetry drivers? Thay have to be loaded and there is no use for them for simple users.

Ah ok, thought it is a game

What is TN?

Probalby a question of the language you use, maybe this is the reason why OP is writing about psychological violence. German knows "psychological violence" as a term (psychische Gewalt) and it is beeing used.. Also in russian we call it "психологическое насилие". I also see, that the wikipedia article about "psychological absue" says that, that "psycholotical violance" is an other name for that.

This is good to hear. In the past I always waited for the day when I turned 18 and could move out. It is sadly the only advice possible to give someone who is under 18 (US and Europa. Dont know about other countries).

The fact that violence is often understood as physical violence drives me crazy. Even governments around the world use methods of violence or torture that are not physical.

In a family context, it can be very bad because the family is still considered a social security. There are enough people who are trapped in such situations simply for economic reasons and can't get out (violence in marriage, for example).

By the way, I was amazed by the subreddit r/cptsd how certain things are similar as far as psychological violence is concerned. Even the words chosen sometimes are identical.

No everything is correct. You extended my words good

2TB Jesus!

I have already understood that. But I was referring to the source mentioned :)

Great! Lets see if it will appear on the usenet somehow

Many people lack a basic understanding of what non-verbal violence is and what it does.

I am really sorry that you are in such a situation right now. How long will it take until you can move out?

How concrete is that antifascism. Having gay sex is a personal choice, based on one's own preference. Furthermore, it fails to recognise what fascism actually is: the atomisation of all organs of the working class.

Yes I saw that. But somehow it defaults to english I used through the Android App :/

So we can still see them but they not us? Ok didnt know that. I thought you are then not able to see posts there. So no liberals will visit my pigeon sub, I can live with that.

To be honest I understand the possibility to defederate as a mechanism to get rid of spammy instances. Like blocking a mail provider which is known for sending spam mails. But creating echo chambers is quite stupid. I mean, I sometimes visit liberal communities an read their stuff so I know what is going on there. On Reddit I had the possibility to filter subs out (Boos for Reddit). But it was still my decision what I want to see and what not. Here they simply decide for the entire user base.

And this stupidity goes even further. I once read a post on reddit how someone discouraged using Lemmy, the software itself, because it is coded by "tankis". Unbelievable.

Edit: Typo