I think its going to end up a successful move for them.
They built a platform. The users built the site over the years with minimal interaction from reddit.
They now have a platform, millions of users, and full control of what they want on that platform.
The writing has been on the wall for a while now, they want the traffic but don't want the problems that come with mostly community driven content.
All the profile redesigns, ability to "follow" users, profile pics, awards, all that has been an indication of the direction over the last few years. The last few steps was to kick out the problem users and be left with those who don't really give a shit and just want to see memes on their phone while they take a shit. The people who hear about reddit and just grab the official app from the store. The people who don't care about APIs and protests and modding or accessibility tools. Just eyeballs to look at their ads.
Those people will stay. It doesn't matter if 25% of the community leaves, because the natural growth in the next few months from the eyeballs will claw it back over time.
Once they have an obedient user base who are strictly bound to what reddit want them to see, think TikTok or facebook users, that's when they will see off. And it will pay off handsomely.
Im using reddit to look at boobs, fediverse for everything else.
When the reddit boobs dry up, ill look elsewhere.
I figure it cant hurt if its purely NSFW. They dont make ad revenue from it, I get to see boobs.
So he can just skip the helping part, just start calling people pedos
Yea look, I got a bit heated about it and I sincerely apologise for that.
Im glad I brought it up though, enough people have been pissed off about the decision that they seem to have taken a hard 180 on the topic, so alls well that ends well for the time being.
And yea I agree there are always different angles, and with so many people moving to a new platform for different reasons there is always going to be some butting heads.
Im just worried that the fediverse is going to take a turn and be overun by edgelords like what has happened with so many "reddit alternatives" in the past.
Anyway, peace and love for sure my dude/dudette
Ah the old cant prove what you said so youre out trick.
Not once in this thread or anywhere else have I suggested defederation. I have repeatedly said this is to warn other normies about their tolerance of underage content and ask for any other recommended instances.
Where is the straw man?
Warning people who dont want underage content on their feed?
Directly quoting the announcement title?
Saying most people dont want that content but if you do good for you?
Literally none of those are strawmen
Yes, the backtrack, which was posted after my initial thread, which is a 180 on what was originally posted, but also goes on to say that its impossible to differentiate if its flat chested content.
All this could have been solved by saying "18+ only", but instead they want to dance the pedo line and come up with their own rules based on breast size and "anime skin tones" and all this other nonsense.
This thread isnt missleading, I posted what I saw. Then they backtracked almost. If people didnt post about it and say they were leaving there wouldnt have been a backtrack.
My biggest concern coming from this is that the admins over there seem really, really out of their depth.
Again, they can and will do whatever they want to do, but in my personal opinion a large general NSFW instance needs to have people who know what they are doing at the helm or its going to be a disaster. I just hope no regular user gets caught up if/when shit hits the fan
Not sure why you would think this place is out of reach of DMCA.
As for what you can post, check the rules
Rule 3:
Don't request or link to specific pirated titles
Absolutely.
All the apologists have come out guns blazing.
My post was just asking for alternatives.
I never suggested defederation, or called for a boycott or anything. I just want to see some boobs every now and then without having to scroll past drawings of naked children
The fact this post has so many apologists and people defending the instance is disappointing
Nah, you jerk off to pics of kids youre going to have to learn to cop it on the chin.
Besides that, the enitre point of this post is to warn people about that instance and ask for alternatives.
All you pedos and apologists showing up to defend pictures of naked kids are just kicking up a stink that no one cares about
I'll just point out that I never suggested anyone defederate from anyone.
As a side point though, lots of places had already defederated from lemmynsfw.
I just want a NSFW instance that doesn't cater to pseudo child porn
No I did, and they said
We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content
Then they go on to say there is a difference between teen and child, and then backtrack and say "noooo we banned loli", after posting a thread titled
We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content
edit:
And now the title of the post is
We're (not) allowing non-IRL underage looking content
I don't know how people can be arguing against a post that is literally titled
We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content
Post title
We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content
I'm telling people who don't want to see pics of naked kids that this particular instance is cool with that.
You're defending that instance.
I'm not throwing a fuss bud
Bud, you call a picture of a nude kid whatever you want.
I'll call it whatever I want
Can you point out where I said to defederate?
No, I'm warning people who don't want to see pictures of naked kids that the instance is cool with that content.
Hentai isn't the issue. The issue is
We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content
Most people don't want that. If you do, more power to ya bud
The post title, direct quote
We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content
The heading of the post is, and I quote
We’re allowing non-IRL underage looking content
Maybe they minced words being non English as their first language.
I understand that, languages are tough.
That said, the fact that it isn't a hard line on that shit is enough for the majority of people to want another instance.
I'm not trying to have them closed. I'm not fronting a resistance to have people not go there. As far as I'm concerned its "legal" and whatever, but at the end of the day the majority of people are not only not interested, but disgusted by that.
Being real here, if I'm looking at nude content, as lots of us do, there is some stuff I don't want to see. Underaged content is on that list. I would safely assume that is on the list for many people.
The point of this thread is to warn other "normies" that the people running that instance are cool with this sort of thing, and ask if there is an alternative yet. lemmynsfw can and will do whatever they want. I'm fine with that, its not the point here. The point is warning others and asking for an alternative.
When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even ...
SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW
Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.
Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the "Loli" announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.
Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?
There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?
edit: UPDATE
I'm taking it as a backtrack, but it's still not an instance I want to associate with.
Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven't seen any alternatives though
Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.
I dont think it was a case of "whoops bad English" like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.