Melllvar @ charonn0 @startrek.website

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My comment is mild compared to the OP.

Google tells me that the US is ranked #5 in the world behind Japan, Canada, Germany, and the Netherlands.

I get that Europe is pretty good too, but the OP makes it sound like America is a nightmare for the disabled.

You do see my point, you just don't like it.

If the green band around it is good then blue is either hella good, or it's hella bad but fun to watch.

The point is America is taking things we’re good at and rolling them back. It loses its point if you pick something we’ve always been bad at.

That seems backwards and ridiculous to me.

If you didn't realize that then you didn't read the whole thread.

That's just one more interpretation to add to the ones I mentioned.

Which is fundamentally my point. Had the OP used something that is actually happening then it would be harder to interpret the message in unintended ways. And it would be much more readily accepted by Americans like myself who do not see themselves as evil, stupid, malicious, or any of the other insults that necessarily follow from any interpretation the OP.

All I've seen are excuses, insults, and childish nonsense comments.

It’s a “joke”.

No shit. And I'm saying it's a stupid joke.

Based on the show they've put on in Ukraine, and leaving aside nuclear weapons, I don't think the Russian military is a credible threat to NATO.

Nonsense. Humor and hyperbole are often used to criticize.

Alright. If the message isn't "hurr durr americans r dum and ebil!!!11", then what is it?

If OpenAI owns a Copyright on the output of their LLMs, then I side with the NYT.

If the output is public domain--that is you or I could use it commercially without OpenAI's permission--then I side with OpenAI.

Sort of like how a spell checker works. The dictionary is Copyrighted, the spell check software is Copyrighted, but using it on your document doesn't grant the spell check vendor any Copyright over it.

I think this strikes a reasonable balance between creators' IP rights, AI companies' interest in expansion, and the public interest in having these tools at our disposal. So, in my scheme, either creators get a royalty, or the LLM company doesn't get to Copyright the outputs. I could even see different AI companies going down different paths and offering different kinds of service based on that distinction.

My point is that it's not a good illustration.

Just read through some of the responses I've gotten. Some people think it's a good illustration because it's very plausible. Some because it's not at all plausible.

I'm saying it's not a good illustration because it's not at all plausible.

It’s not criticizing disability rights.

I know. It's criticizing Americans.

That’s why they used disability rights - because they’re NOT in danger.

Might want to check with some of the other lovely commenters on that one. I'm told that it's an imminent danger.

Therefore, all Americans are evil. Got it.

That really hurts.

constructive criticism

...would be welcome. As I said originally, of all the things you can criticize the US for, wheelchair accessibility isn't one of them. And it's not likely to become one of them any time soon.

My objection is that OP is not constructive. It could have been--plenty to criticize as I said--but it's not. At best it's ignorant; at worst it's vindictive.

I did read between the lines. I'm asking if my interpretation is somehow wrong.

So, what does this OP actually mean?

That Americans are evil people? That America is a terrible place? That nothing America does is ever good?

You're making this out to be some kind of deep constructive criticism. So that's the part I need explained.