@Zagorath @Brendanjones In the UK one of the magic numbers planners used for bus stops (or did a few years ago when I was in the loop) was 400m

@Zugumba @ajsadauskas @fuck_cars On my one trip to Texas my host said we were going out to dinner. So at the hotel we got into a car, were driven out of the hotel car park, up the ramp onto the motorway, along for one junction, down the ramp, and into the restaurant car park.

And when I looked around I could see that the hotel was in fact next door. Each was surrounded by a vast nearly empty car par. We could have walked from one to the other ... except of course there was an impenetrable fence between the two car parks. 'cos nobody would want to walk, would they, when they could drive, so why leave a gap in the fence?

And then ... there were all sorts of weird hoops to jump through before we were allowed to buy alcohol to go with our dinner. Of course if we'd been able to walk from the hotel we could have drunk as much as we liked without worrying about being sober enough to drive back.

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars One thing you can get within a 15 minute walk of some US homes is arrested!

(My grandma went for a walk in a Miami suburb. The locals thought that someone walking (rather than driving) was obviously suspicious so they called the cops. Because my grandma was white and female and elderly, rather than black and male and young, they stopped to talk to her rather than just shooting her. They then spent several minutes trying to get her to admit that she was walking because her car had broken down - they just couldn't get it through their heads that she was walking because she wanted to walk.)

@georgetakei@universeodon.com The baby book that my mother used for me, and gave me to use for our children (or, probably, just for a laugh[#]) told us to avoid "wicked women" who tell those sorts of stories.

So for us the NCT was referred to as "the wicked women".

[#] My mother did warn me that all baby books were useless, in that the baby wasn't going to behave like the book says they should, on account of the baby hasn't read the book.

@li10 @diskmaster23 My commute would be mostly off road, but there's no way I'm risking my life in an office in these plague-ridden times so I'm working from home.