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  • Voyager is still not working this morning. Can upvote only very intermittently. I haven’t attempted to post or comment.

    Logged in through a browser, I am not having upvote issues, but failed to post a comment on the first attempt.

    All to say that Voyager is part of the problem, but not all.

  • There are some super rare elements, structures and materials that cannot be replicated.

    These unreplicatable ones become the most valuable. Likewise, the value of original or unique sentient-being created artifacts.

    Conversely, the value of things that can be replicated is effectively reduced to the energy cost, give or take transportation costs for items that can only be replicated in large industrial replicators.

    Energy cost becomes the key value. Not a problem generally, but in a constrained environment like a starship at maximum warp over long periods (e.g., Voyager’s first years in the Delta Quadrant), it can require rationing of replicator usage. (Holodeck had a separate and incompatible power source.)

    The most widely known example of an element that can’t be replicated is latinum, which replaced gold as a measure of value. Gold is replicatable but latinum is not.

    Other examples include dilithium crystals needed to regulate warp core reactions and benamite crystals needed for the quantum slipstream drive.

    Some materials that cannot be replicated in the 23rd century can be otherwise created in the 24th century. The technology progresses through time in-universe.

    I believe there was a post or file at the old place that listed all the canonically identified unreplicatable materials. It might be one to bring forward to c/DaystromInstitute. @khaosworks@startrek.website can you weigh in please?

  • I really liked this and found it sweet.

    As others have said, we haven’t seen many of these kind of recounting experiences episodes, but in this transition season it feels like we’re owed one.

    While we could have just seen more of the main four leading others in B & C plots, this allowed them and us to take stock of their progress as leaders - except Tendi, but I think we saw a different angle on leadership from her on Orion.

  • Thanks for this.

    Never too much Moopsy!

  • Nah, we know what an AttackTribble TM looks like.

  • I will add to that a Star Trek day without any Discovery celebration.

  • Pulaski also seemed to be high functioning autistic, with researcher abrasive in the mix.

    Dr. Tracy Pollard of Discovery and head of Sickbay definitely had snark.

  • More like 18 months.

    It would have been a year had the third season gone into production May 2nd as originally scheduled. But with production on hold until the actors contract is settled, and a year for post after, we’ll be lucky to see it in late 2024.

  • The StarTrek.website instance has nontoxic and active community with views - and of course one of the longest running franchises to discuss.

    There’s even a great where to start post along the lines you’re looking for.

    Now naturally other stuff exists, and we even have a place to discuss that over at /quarks.

  • Gaia Violo who wrote the pilot and is coexecutive producer was co-creator and senior writer on the thriller ‘Absentia.’

    Noga Landau (sharing showrunner credit with Kurtzman) worked as a senior writer with Henry Alonso Myers (coshowrunner of SNW) when he was the showrunner of The Magicians. Then she went on to write the became showrunner of recent Nancy Drew show, giving it some supernatural vibes and storylines.

    So, with those two, I was expecting a more mysterious, even thrillerish. Putting Tawny Newsome in the room will definitely lighten it up somewhat.

    If Discovery is any benchmark, once the show is in production, Kurtzman will leave the day to day show running to Landau and whomever will be the supervising director EP in Toronto. He’ll review and approve scripts and be more involved in post.

    At this point one has to question whether Paramount is unwilling to have women showrunners take the helm on their own. Kim and Lippoldt ended up having a guy tacked on as a 3rd coshowrunner for S31, then with all the delays, they moved on to run things successfully on their own at Netflix with ‘Sweet Tooth.’

  • Fantastic! Welcome to the franchise fandom family - large, argumentative but still fam.

    Also, this is one of the nicest, least toxic, places to talk to other fans.

  • I hadn’t considered Pelia still being alive, but it’s a cool idea.

    They could even do a story arc with the cadets joining Kovich and other familiar faces in tracking her down. Bryce and Reno, both engineers, would have certainly had her as a prof at the Academy. Might be a great season two story once Pelia’s moved on from SNW.

  • Not every Star Trek show needs to be made for you or your (our) age group. We need new shows to appeal to younger viewers and keep the franchise fresh.

    I’m an old thing who watched TOS in first run in my primary grades. I have absolutely zero patience with the position you’re taking. I watch it all and don’t need to see people my age as the principal characters anymore than I did when I was six.

    Shows aren’t made for the mass audience anymore, and even TNG was a bit beyond our kids when they became franchise fans as middle graders. They loved watching Voyager reruns though, demonstrating to me why it was the most successful Trek show on Netflix.

  • Always an important reminder.

    More Star Trek is good, & like Lower Decks and Prodigy, which are also designed to appeal to different, younger audiences, the old fans might just find they love them too.

    Many of the old TOS fans were unbearably resistant to anything but the original crew and ship, even though movies were being made about them. (They had done the same thing when TAS was in development.) It was really difficult to come to a convention between 1987 and 1990 as a TNG fan.

  • I can appreciate the camp now. In the 90s, it was very cringey. . . and in the 60s & 70s I was too young to get that it was campy.

  • There has been good MCU content that actually has coherence - Agents of Shield, She-Hulk, Loki - but they’ve effectively had Showrunners.

    Why Marvel thought it was optional, and everything could be fixed with editing in post is bizarre, but I’d argue that they’re just at the extreme end of a continuum.

    Even with showrunners, some of the early seasons of the new era of Star Trek seems to have fallen into the same trap. To many big ego EPs each doing what they want and Kurtzman trying smooth it all out with editing in post.

    Osunsami has kept coherence in the direction of Discovery in Toronto, but Picard season one and two was all over the place, frequently ignoring the tone laid down by Hanelle Culpepper in the pilot.

  • Posts like this reconcile me to the bad, infinitely-memed guy in a Gorn suit in TOS ‘Arena’.

    OP can I recommend Star Trek: Lower Decks as your gateway … to the onscreen franchise. A logical place to start.

  • LOL

    So far, all the slippage of major events has been downstream - Eugenics war and WW3 moved back from late 20th century to mid 21st century.

    But who knows, could the Romulans inadvertently move something forward.

  • Just pointing out that any & all of these dates may have slipped due to temporal incursions in the Prime timeline by Romulans and others.

    Temporal War leaves its artifacts in terms of non critical deviations - the river of the Prime timeline is very resilient. They key events will happen give or take a few decades.

  • Lowest rate by whom?

    We shouldn’t let brigading fans who just can’t bear the idea of a musical episode spoil it for the rest of us.

    When there’s a weird spike at the 1/10 on IMDb, it’s clear that it’s a campaign of gatekeepers not an assessment of any validity.