‘I don’t date at all now’: one woman’s journey into the darkest corners of the manosphere
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Exhibit A, Your Honor.
Yeah you'd think, but when I worked in cybersecurity the thing that freaked me out the most is how often this just doesn't happen. It can happen immediately or it can take ages.
Another thing I think about sometimes is how games can be malicious too. The trend in PC gaming for a while now is "flavor of the month" where every couple months a huge breakout title comes out and everyone plays it for a few weeks.
The expectation from these games is that they run like shit despite being a fifth as graphically complex as a bigger budget game. What stops them from slipping a coin miner in for half a day at the peak of their popularity?
Schedule 1 for example. I love this game and I'm not accusing them of anything, just an example. Let's be honest. It runs at 100fps when it could run at 1000fps. Say the dev finally optimizes it, pushes the optimizations and a coin miner in a hotfix patch with no patch notes post on Steam. Six hours later the dev removes the coin miner and pushes that as a major patch with a patch notes release calling it the "optimization update" or something. We'd be none the wiser.
Don't take this as me saying not to support indie titles but it's a little weird that millions of people install untrusted closed source code from 1-3 devs all at the same time every couple months.
Can I copytrade her? Corruption ETF when?
You don't actually think saying crazy shit like this to people is going to change anyone's mind about anything do you? If anything this kind of talk makes people more entrenched in their opinions. So you're just venting, which is understandable, but you're wrong to take it out on a stranger regardless of if you think a political disagreement makes them subhuman. You need therapy.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the actual fuck is wrong with you.
Why would you expect someone to put their life on the line for you when you spout off about them all being lunatics? They're at home with their family ready to protect their own home from tyranny as it comes to their own front door. They're not assembling an army to take care of you too. You hate them, so defend yourself if you want to.
Besides, my entire point is about how fucking stupid it is to be all like "I'm not hearing anything from those people I never talk to, curious isn't it?" I literally do not care in the slightest about a might-as-well-be-copypasted rant I've heard 10000 times from people who might as well be the exact same person as you.
Literally everyone I know who is in favor of 2A is against this. They're "being real quiet" because you don't interact with them and have no line of communication with them outside of Twitter trolls
You know, I agree with you, but we're already on the same team. Keep in mind though, we aren't trying to change the minds of the few powerful and evil motherfuckers who want us all dead. It can't be done. We want the average person to side with us, and the average person builds logical arguments around their emotions, not the other way around.
The average person is not a murderous freak and being made out to be one simply because they aren't on board with something they don't understand will absolutely harbor negative sentiment. They aren't going to be discerning and they are going to take this to be about them. And like I said, then the logical arguments get built around that negative sentiment. Then they start voting, and so on.
I'm not saying calm down, because you shouldn't. But red-hot messaging does not help. Turn the temperature down and you'll see more people agreeing with you who, importantly, didn't already agree with you BEFORE they read your message.
As tempting as it is to just think something along the lines of "everyone is just hateful and dumb" I think it's entirely possible that there is some fundamental issue with our messaging. Focus on the things you can control.
Lol. U mad bro? If you can't take the heat...
I feel like it's worth mentioning that this post is about being held accountable socially. When it comes to the legal system, there are severe discrepencies that favor women in a lot of different ways. Please don't think I'm coming from some Manosphere bullshit because this has been studied and reviewed extensively. When you factor in everything, it becomes a lot less clear which gender is "more accountable" in society. I think it makes much more sense to meet in the middle and normalize (in the math way, not the social media way) accountability.
If you imagine accountability as a table of things you can be held accountable for (rows) vs how accountable each gender is held for them (columns), simply copying the woman column and pasting it over the man column would be significantly reducing men's accountability for a lot of things. Notably, it would make the legal system about twice as lenient on men for sexual misconduct and obviously nobody wants that. The right thing to do would be to evaluate each row and decide whether it is most just to copy one side to the other or average them.
Edit: And while we're at it, do the same process across racial groups, which I would argue is probably a lot more clearly fucked up and unbalanced in one obvious direction
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Not as much as you think.
I never stated any high importance. I just said it matters.
I think it's crazy that I just state it matters, which is undeniably true, and it instantly prompts a rant about body dysmorphia, porn, facism, toxic masculinity, and reshaping society. Like, bro...
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My point: One testimony does not make a fact
I'm not saying it isn't true. I'm saying you're misunderstanding the meaning of "confirmed" and "fact"
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Listen I have zero stake in Trump's penis size but let's not get loose with the definition of "confirmed fact" here. You haven't seen it.
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I mean, let's not pretend there isn't an aesthetic factor that women do care about
GenZ is overwhelmingly sex negative. I think that the movement for sexual liberation of women works to bring GenZ women back to baseline (or above) while GenZ men remain very sexually repressed. Just a theory, but it seems true in my life. I live in an American city fwiw
I really don't think making this about incels makes sense and I'll demonstrate why:
Woman calls me unfuckable -> I'm an incel
I call a woman unfuckable -> I'm an incel
There's little logical consistency around the topic and it's kind of just become a loophole to cancel morality when it comes to attacking men. I'm really careful with my wording to avoid triggering this response because if I do, people stop processing what I'm saying and they start dogpiling.
I mean, I've been pretty clear... and nobody else is having trouble understanding what I'm trying to say. is it possible that on some level you kind of like, don't want to understand?
being surprised by this makes no sense, it's like expecting people at a Hitler convention to call each other out for liking Hitler
edit: if you expect anything but the worst from users of reddit, discord, and 4chan, you're insane.