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[image: "What an incredible performance in that fight! What tactics were you using, Martlet?" Martlet, winking, in cursive font: "i dunno" ...]
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first post on lemmy in like ages (though i've been actively lurking). life's been busy
spring 2024 mini newsletter just dropped! saw a thing at the end of the interview with papyrus and thought it had great potential for a meme template. so have some undertale yellow. what fight are we talking about here? insert the same answer that martlet gave.
martlet best (undertale) birb ...ok well there's also the one that carries you across the disproportionately small gap
made with paint\.net. text box (sans martlet) taken from the latest undertale (mini) newsletter, specifically the interview with papyrus. originally had sans in a top hat instead of martlet. martlet dialogue portrait taken from shayy's undertale yellow pacifist stream and then jankily resized. enjoy the low quality
made this little remix, wanted to share with you guys!
have had this idea for quite a while now. wonder how many people will catch on to what i mean by that ;)
(also snuck in another little detail. not sure which one's easier to catch, but it was fun to put in regardless :) (and also allowed me to be a bit more lazy with things!))
composed in musescore. transcribed the original track in 0cc-famitracker, and made an edit using audacity.
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[thumbnail image: annoying dog in a bedsheet ghost costume. woof]
newsletter summary:
- deltarune chapter 3's almost complete, and chapter 4 is underway
- toby's changing the release plan for deltarune again, now chapters 3 and 4 (not 5 anymore) will be released for purchase together
- there's a nice little dev team interview for deltarune chapter 2
- various images of characters dressing up as each other!
- a spoopy narrative to tie it all together
nice stuff!
trying out this cross-post feature with a little thing i did that's relevant to two different video game fandoms! cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6129824
> i was thinking about how elfilin was shaped like a heart for some kind of valentine's day concept. and then... that turned into the following kirby/deltarune crossover thing. spoilers for kirby and the forgotten land! > > -- > > -- > > -- > > --- > > [[Welcome, visitors!]] > > MEET THE [[Ultimate Lifeform86]] > > FECT > > FECTO [[forgor]]!! > > ARE YOU [The Lion King (1994)] SEEKING CONTACT [From Those Who Departed For Space]? > > HAS YOUR KIND BEEN ABANDONED IN [[Forgotten Land]]? > > ARE THEY LOOKING TO ENTER A LAND OF [Hopes and Dreams]? > > WELL HAVE I GOT A [[Special Deal]] 4 YOU [Menacing beasts]! > > I USED TO BE A [[BIG SHOT]]. BUT THEN I TOOK A [shortcut] TO [[New World!]] > > I SAID [Hiiiii!] BY [Beam attack!] THE NATIVE WILDLIFE, BUT IT WAS NOT WELL [receiver]. AND SO I WAS SEALED IN THIS [Barrier]. > > BUT IT GOT WORSE! > > IN [THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT] 30 YEARS LATER, [no No NO NO NO NO NO]! > > THEY RIPPED OUT MY [[SOUL]], LEAVING BEHIND [[It Burns! Ow! Stop! Help Me! It Burns!]] > > [[And here we are!]] IN THE PRESENT DAY. > > [Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage.] > > [even if we do] [getting to the surface], I WILL JUST [amalgamate]. > > BUT YOU CAN [Press F1 For] HELP. > > [[A new life-form, separated from the main specimen,]] [[has yet to be recovered.]] > > FIND THAT. SMALL CYAN [[HeartShapedRodent]]. AND BRING IT. TO ME. > > WITH OUR [Powers Combined], I WILL ONCE AGAIN BE A [[BIG SHOT]]. > > [But wait, there's more!] > > [[Escape would require more energy]]. I ALSO NEED [workforce]. > > I WILL [Opened vortex.] [Brought here.] YOU ONLY NEED TO ["gotch"] THEM IN CAGES. > > DO AS I ASK, AND I WILL [[Initiating facility navigation prototol.]] YOU 2 [[LandOfDreams]]. > > IF THIS [[fills you with determination.]] THEN WE HAVE A [[DEAL]]. > > HAEAHAEAHAEAHAEAH!!
my initial thought was that it actually didn't use that many leitmotifs: just spamton's two motifs, the world revolving + power of neo, and dummy!. but that's actually more leitmotifs (5) than hopes and dreams (4: once upon a time A and C, your best friend, and snowdin town), chaos king (3: card castle, lancer, legend), and attack of the killer queen (3 or 4: queen, maybe another queen motif somewhere?, berdly's 2 motifs), assuming i have everything correct! (i'm counting each distinct section of a source song as a unique leitmotif.)
watched the linked video for the first time, though i'm sure i've seen it plenty of times in my recommendations. i didn't consider melody A'' to be a variation of melody A, but i suppose it kinda makes sense. i assume this was one of the more influential analyses of big shot's leitmotifs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet
Baphomet is a deity allegedly worshipped by the Knights Templar that subsequently became incorporated into various occult and Western esoteric traditions. The name Baphomet appeared in trial transcripts for the Inquisition of the Knights Templar starting in 1307. It first came into popular English usage in the 19th century during debate and speculation on the reasons for the suppression of the Templar order. Baphomet is a symbol of balance in various occult and mystical traditions, the origin of which some occultists have attempted to link with the Gnostics and Templars, although occasionally purported to be a deity or a demon. Since 1856 the name Baphomet has been associated with the "Sabbatic Goat" image drawn by Éliphas Lévi, composed of binary elements representing the "symbolization of the equilibrium of opposites": half-human and half-animal, male and female, good and evil, etc. Lévi's intention was to symbolize his concept of balance, with Baphomet representing the goal of perfect social order.
...huh
ralsei is the one trying to maintain the balance of light and dark, i suppose
*google translates the title*
...yeah
ah, that little detail! what's even more intriguing is that it's only the first two bars of the theme
it's not an easy question for me!
i'll highlight two from undertale: first, it's pretty cool how waterfall is kind of a "leitmotif bridge" between ruins and another medium / core. too bad snowy isn't connected in the same way
more notably: the way don't give up uses the variation of the ruins leitmotif from an ending / undyne's neutral death theme is pretty amazing. with pretty much the exact same melody and rhythm, it manages to go from depressing and emotional to inspiring... and emotional.
for deltarune, i'll highlight two from chapter 1 and one from chapter 2. i like how field of hopes and dreams, as the very first "proper" area theme, heavily emphasizes the don't forget leitmotif, using it in a cheerful, upbeat way.
as for one of the very last songs in chapter one, the way chaos king just blasts you with the legend section C in a refreshing burst of determination and hope that contrasts nicely with the rest of the theme... yeah even in chapter 1, despite lacking the various improvements of chapter 2, toby fox absolutely nailed it with everything music-wise.
and as for chapter 2, the way berdly's theme is incorporated into attack of the killer queen is both surprisingly subtle (especially since it actually takes up more of the song than queen's own leitmotif(!)) and, just, pleasant to listen to. in particular, i love the way they changed around the rhythm for section B of berdly's theme.
let's see if this community is better at responding to these than c/kirby! :p
toby fox is famous for his use of leitmotifs. what specific instances do you find compelling, interesting, memorable, etc?
man, that transition segment in finale where asriel's leitmotif plays...
i would certainly like to participate in that kind of stuff (assuming i have something valuable to contribute in a given discussion)! maybe you could trial it for a few days and see how things go?
hello! not planning to visit here particularly often (i'm much more active on !kirby@lemmy.world), but i figure i'll check back here from time to time. here and also !deltarune@lemmy.fmhy.ml.
i would like to participate in discussion questions whenever i can, though, so: narrator chara is a classic! has some interesting evidence, but more importantly i think it a. makes chara's character more interesting and b. makes the narration another "meta-infused" element of the game, in line with other stuff such as the save system.
i'm sure there are various other theories that i'm a big fan of, but this is the only one that comes to mind right now so yeah