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[Question] Why does everyone seem to dislike containerized packages?

TLDR at bottom.

On most linux forums, it seems that everyone is trash talking flatpaks, snaps, docker, and other containerized packages with the statement that they are "pre-compiled". Is there a real-world affect that this has with performance and/or security, and does this have to do with canonical and/or redhat leaving a bad taste in people's mouths due to previous scandals?

Also, it is easier for the developer to maintain only one version of the package for every user. All of the dependencies come with the package meaning that there aren't distro-specific problems and everything "just works" out of the box.

I understand that this also makes the flatpaks larger, but there is deduplication that shrinks them as you install more by re-using libraries. Do the drawbacks of a slightly larger initial disk usage really outweigh all of its advantages?

I have heard that flatpaks are slower than distro-specific compiled binaries but haven't seen a case where this affects performance in the real world.

TLDR: In most forums linux users tend to take the side of distro-specific packages without an explanation as to why.

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  • No, I am using fedora silverblue which is point release. But there are rolling release immutable distros like opensuse aeon/kalpa im pretty sure. Basically the system files are read only and packages are "layered" onto the system image through transactional upgrades. Most of the packages you want to install should be in containers like flatpak (for gui) and distrobox (for terminal). This keeps the base system clean and small and doesn't get "bloated" like other mutable OS's.

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  • It's a way to go at least for rolling release. However, tw is looking less and less interesting than it used to 5 years ago now that all these shiny new immutable distros are coming out.

  • Lemmy Post Purger (LPP) - Keep your small instance from growing too large for your disks.
  • I feel like this ruins the aspect of an archive of information where users can go back through and find useful info similar to SO in a way. Maybe there will be a meta search engine for looking through all of the popular instances?

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  • I'm pretty sure sid also has package freezes for when it moves up to testing. In general Debian's purpose is as a stable distro and it might be better to use a distro that focuses on rolling release for bleeding edge packages.

  • Why everyone is switching to NixOS ?
  • It's true that it can be a powerful distro but I've also heard from some users that the advanced-level documentation is lacking and only limited to forums and source code. I think maybe if the documentation was more thorough I would try nixos.

  • Linux distro hopping is a fun way to find the perfect desktop operating system
  • Tbf all of those distros except for manjaro are based on Ubuntu, so you really are more like hopping DEs and defaults more than distros. Also, I always tend to prefer the main distro than the spin-offs, so if you are using all of these smaller Ubtubtu-based distros that are breaking why not try Ubuntu itself? It has a much larger userbase and is tested more with more documentation.

  • Will Flatpak and Snap replace desktop Linux native apps?
  • Immutable OS's like fedora silverblue tend to prefer flatpaks due to the read only nature of system files. Yes, you can rebuild the image and layer the rpm package over the rest of the system, but that's really supposed to be kept to a minimum.

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    I've found that some of the replies in kbin have solid lines and some are dashed even though they are relplying to the same comment. Are dashed lines for accounts on unfederated instances or something similar? (still new to fediverse so not sure how this all works)

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