I like a lot of JPs stuff l. He intruduced me to a lot of concepts but ironically i must warn that his content really is for the thinking man in the sense that you need to stay vigilant to spot the cintradictions with reality. Cleaning your room doesnt fix dating or the job market for instance and sometimes those realities that go beyond our own self discipline and talent really are overwhelming.
So, I haven't heard much about JP in a while,and now I've heard a podcast and this. Is it just coincidence or is there a reason we're talking about him again? The podcast mentioned he'd gone on some show debating Christianity with 20 atheists. It went as you might imagine, where jp argued that atheists were Christian because they didn't understand the thing they say they don't believe in. Idk. Anyway -- any other reason I'm hearing about him again?
Sealioning (source) + whataboutism. A very cheap method of trolling and exhausting the opponent of the argument which relies on the victim being unaware of sealioning and they're being sealioned. It's frustrating seeing JP fans think this is proof he's a genius. it's like Ben Shapiro, another rightwing "influencer" who constantly speaks fast and gish gallops on purpose and his fans think he's a genius for that too
False inductive reasoning combined with butwhataboutism and sealinoning. All designed to exhaust the opponent and muddy the argument. Conservatives love this form of argument.
My father tried to tell me what a "genius" he is. I told my father point blank, Jordan Peterson is only a genius to morons. He even gave me one of Peterson's self help books, I immediately tossed it in the trash. Though, in retrospect, I probably should have tried to return it to Amazon and used the money to buy something more worthy of reading, like Chick Tracts. 😂 At least they're entertaining.
Actually, I know Rogan is smarter. Rogan had a craft as a fight commentator; that's a skill that takes knowledge in both tv presentation and fighting. And I bet you rogan easily talk for a full day about Pride FC without repeating a point.
This is only missing JP coming up with a completely deranged definition of what fries are that he demands the cashier adheres to (I don't think the vodka applies, that's more making fun of the cashier). And also him entirely dodging the question of whether he likes fries, stating that people have discussed whether he likes fries but he refuses to reveal it.
There is a great impression of him talking about Burger King that I have to share. He's doing this same kind of stupidity in this video. https://youtu.be/-BDgQMGs7Mc
I find that Jordan Peterson himself is not annoying, but his fans. Even when you give positive feedback that Peterson is actually pretty good as psychologist, as soon as you criticise his sophistry and his intentionally erroneous take on philosophy, his fans will immediately come at you like a horde of zombies. That's what Peterson's fans are: unthinking horde. It is unfortunate that his fans tend to be lonely individuals who feel lost, and Peterson is only too happy to lap it up for his own grift.