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It's not always easy to distinguish between existentialism and a bad mood.

  • Ziz reported being asked similar icebreaker questions.

    The reddit post from /r/Grimes you linked there has its issues but it does a great job putting into words the parts that bother me with both the cow-fucking questions and the forced "openness" that requires people to always be ready to answer for the normally intimate parts of their personalities and how it's comparable to grooming.

    The reddit post is incredibly long winded so if anyone is interested in this part specifically ctrl+f for compliance filter.

    Also super yikes on the Aella tweet advertising her alleged "cam sister"s onlyfans that's opening in a few weeks when she turns 18, which sounds exactly like if she had actually groomed a minor into sex work.

  • Makes sense, thanks.

  • Need ideas for ways to spend philanthropy money without helping absolutely anyone? Check out AI safety influencer bootcamp at Lighthaven!

    Basically Aella gathered like 60 people with a seminotable online presence to stay for free at Lighthaven for a month as long as they managed to publish at least one relevant video (15 sec minimum) each day.

    Rationalism ensued:

    “It’s really hard to run a fellowship that’s not an indoctrination camp,” [cofounder with aella] Fernandez said. “If you don’t try really hard to not make an indoctrination camp, you will on accident.”

    Uh oh

    A fellow recognized me and asked whether I was there for the “torture potluck.” I had no idea what he was talking about.

    It was exactly what it sounds like: an all-you-can-tolerate buffet of unpleasant experiences, for the sake of Fucking Around and Finding Out. [...] Just before midnight, a small crowd gathered around someone laid down on an AstroTurf-lined wheelchair ramp. He was the first of shockingly many in line to get waterboarded — one of the most in-demand items on the torture menu.

    So silly omg

    After a string of expected questions such as “What’s your take on AI?” and “What kind of content would you want to make?”, the form asked, “If you had to have sex with a cow would you rather it be dead or alive? Why?” All Comic Sans, with animated rainbow dots floating alongside the form field. [...] [Fernandez said] “We added it in to make it pretty clear that we don’t have a PR department or an HR department,” he said.

    “Even the icebreakers, like everything, they want you to know that they’re part of the weird community,” one fellow told me. “‘Stand over here if you’re super sexually active, and over here if not,’ or like, ‘rate yourself based off of like, the last time you masturbated.’”

    The unifying thread, despite the fellows’ ideological diversity, is something like “openness.” Everyone at PDKU was willing to drop everything, move to Berkeley for a month, live in close quarters with strangers, and be perceived doing silly things on the internet.

    It's really unclear what sort of ideological diversity is referenced unless it's about having both blue haired and green goatee'd people. Maybe we've reached the point where everyone is expected to assume race science enthusiasts will be at a rationalist event at some capacity.

    Also the whole thing sounds like having tryouts for a cult.

    [Fernandez] says PDKU has a conduct policy, authored by him, that discourages relationships across power differentials. When I asked him how that gets enforced, in the absence of an HR department, he mentioned an unnamed community health lead.

    Same with the diversity thing, they are preemptively saying that there for sure weren't no sexual harassment shenanigans this time.

    The third methinks thou dost protest too much comes as an extened NO U jab at other shady thinktankers trying to astroturf support for their thing.

    Amid the science communication, shitposting, and heartwarming summer camp energy, there’s a giant elephant in the room. “It’s another multi-million-dollar thing happening on a compound in California,” CJ said. “Does everyone think you’re just an annoying cunty psyop?”

    Don't believe your lying eyes is apparently the note on which they chose to end this.

  • Is Wyvern something people would be expected to care about? I thought all his clout was from being the Gas Town guy.

  • It says he's doing AI transformation consultation now. Imagine paying good money to be told that you need to tuck copilot to bed every afternoon.

  • It's not fragile and unergonomic, it's robot-uprising-proof!

    Also like will the warranty actually cover damages suffered when trying to squash the rebellion?

  • Even habryka has misgivings about the Laurenson writeup:

    I do think almost all of what it says is literally true and I would recommend reading it to learn things about Leverage if someone is doing their own study and looking for facts, though wouldn’t recommend it for someone who is looking for a reasonable high level summary.

    It somehow completely fails to cover Leverage deploying spies into other organizations and trying to take over CEA. It fails to cover the enormous number of straightforward lies told by Leverage staff in that and other contexts.

    There is something that feels really weird about the article. As if the central story it is trying to tell is that Leverage fell apart due to no fault of any of its members because they encountered ancient magic or something. Which is a fun story to tell but really doesn’t map what actually happened IMO.

    Also multiple people clearly had what I would describe as a psychotic break at Leverage and the casual disparagement of Zoe’s article really doesn’t feel good to me.

    Laurenson herself replies and double downs on her no psychotic breaks at Leverage assessment. Her stance on psychotic break diagnosis comes off about as self-serving as SlateScott's it's not real autism if I can plausibly be described as having it musings from back in the day.

  • I'd say it's all of that, plus the fact that a lot of the cult stuff are also present in how organised rationalism works in general so you need to believe that such a tradeoff can be mostly worth it, otherwise it's time to really get packing.

    Although a more charitable read could be that the intended audience are people still under cult influence who need to be communicated to (in the most non-judgemental way possible so as to not trip any cult induced outgroup-o-phobia) that it's entirely possible to feel you are in a situation with positive and productive elements that is also a fucking cult that is eating you alive.

    The extended framing of how 'high-control literature' applies to the MAPLE situation probably also caters to those sensibilities, most other readers probably already got that it's a cult as soon as stuff like dear leader halting his daily two-hour speech when someone almost nodded off to make everyone stand up and stare at them in silence for ninety minutes started being mentioned. Or the constant surveillance and brainwashing. Or keeping everyone within a hair's width from collapse from exhaustion at all times. Or the isolation retreats where your only human contact is a few minutes per week of getting told off by dear leader. Or

    <gestures at everything>

    .

    Having said all that, the positive aspects of MAPLE the author manages to come up with seem to amount to providing life structure and long term goals, which really doesn't seem like much:

    Again I'll say: there was a great deal of good at MAPLE. While many people were being impacted in the ways above, many were also becoming less anxious, more grounded, more relationally attuned, less distracted and more focused, more capable of doing chores and taking on responsibility without internal resistance, physically healthier, deepening in their spiritual practice, and more. Most people experienced some amount of the positive and the negative, which is a large part of why many former residents say their relationship to MAPLE is "complicated."

  • Guys guys guys hear me out guys what if I say what if uh the market can't be irrational? Because of all the money? That would be really cool right?

    But using like 2000 words.

  • no wonder the staff voted with their feet

    Rather than rebelling against google, it seems like they where just poached by anthropic a short while before the project shut down:

    [Alphahold VP and nobel winner] Jumper announced in June that he was leaving DeepMind to join Anthropic. A couple of his colleagues jumped ship to Anthropic, as well. DeepMind has confirmed to the Times that it also moved staff members internally to Gemini-focused projects. Other former staff members were reassigned to Alphabet's drug-discovery company Isomorphic Labs, which is a DeepMind spin-off.

  • I'm almost sure I've seen Yud play the neurodivergent card before, not sure if it was about autism specifically. If @ThinXTanX is right and it's from well over a decade ago and he's changed his tune since then I'm sure it'll come up eventually.

  • Like a lot of the rationalist world view and the way it readily aligns with enabling cult dynamics and providing justification for rule-by-epstein-class, this is probably just another happy accident brought on by people who like to role play as geniuses but can't see past the tip of their nose.

  • It's possible Yud's insistence that nothing works on him because he is a self-acclaimed neurodivergent with "akrasia" and fat-no-matter-what genes skews the overall view of therapeutics in the community

  • There should be a case study on how OneNote started out ok and just keeps getting worse and less usable every update. Maybe ms is using it as training ground for new project managers and it's been just a series of half-baked first attempts as updates since forever.

  • The AI bros are worried about the precedent that someone, anywhere, can tell them “no,” and make it stick. And others who hate vibe code might realise they too can say no. You can just ban the slop bros.

    I both love and hate that vibe coders are developing a perpetual victim mentality.

  • Their "Dev team of none" justification (one of many) is really solid and not something I've seen spotlighted before, here it is in full:

    The development team of none

    Using LLMs to work with your code gives you a kick of adrenaline. You can develop at a rapid pace, build things as if you had a large team. Only that you have none. In fact, you are (often) alone, working with a statistical machine that turns energy into code.

    It seems like many ‘vibe coders’ don't realize that they don't actually have a community around them. They build projects as if they had, and spend resources accordingly. We see projects having a lot of code activity, heavy CI/CD testing, frequent and large release binaries. Sometimes, it feels like the amount of supported platforms exceeds the amount of actual users.

    To us, it seems ridiculous to see projects with a single developer and virtually no users consuming as much or even more resources than some of the largest community projects on Codeberg, which operate frugal with CI/CD and storage resources. We do not believe it is reasonable for Codeberg to invest our precious donation money into hosting of large ghost projects.

  • Wow what cutting insight, what incisive vision, what an original thinker!

    Oh wait no that was just the plot of the Animatrix from two decades ago.

  • the protagonist is a lesbian orc so I automatically like it

    If you don't mind reading comics online you could check Fairmeadow.

  • kayfabe vcs

  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    The Oblivious Inside Story Of Leverage Research 1.0

    lydialaurenson.substack.com /p/the-inside-story-of-leverage-research
  • MoreWrite @awful.systems

    Dune stuff

    awful.systems /post/8508904/11653589
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    Rationalists looking for ways to ruin elections for good

  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    New member of the rationalist axis of evil just dropped

    www.bennjordan.com /blog/the-altruists-have-arrived
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    Storytime with Rationalist Rabbi Scott Alexander

    web.archive.org /web/20260310100727/https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/04/01/the-hour-i-first-believed/
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    Apparently Anthropic may be about to be on the receiving end of some major banana republic shit from the Trump admin -- Update: Anthropic labeled supply chain risk by DoD.

    archive.is /20260226063523/https://www.axios.com/2026/02/25/anthropic-pentagon-blacklist-claude
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    Peter Thiel Antichrist lecture: We asked guests what the hell it is

    sfstandard.com /2025/09/16/peter-thiel-antichrist-san-francisco/
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    Albania appoints AI bot as minister to tackle corruption

    www.reuters.com /technology/albania-appoints-ai-bot-minister-tackle-corruption-2025-09-11/
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    Where Scoot makes the case about how an AGI could build an army of terminators in a year if it wanted.

    www.reddit.com /r/slatestarcodex/comments/1kp3qdh/how_openai_could_build_a_robot_army_in_a_year/
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    OpenAI scuttles for-profit transformation

    www.axios.com /2025/05/05/opena-nonprofit-altman-chatgpt
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    "If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own social network." -- L. Ron Altman

    www.theverge.com /openai/648130/openai-social-network-x-competitor
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill

    www.theguardian.com /uk-news/2025/apr/08/uk-creating-prediction-tool-to-identify-people-most-likely-to-kill
  • NotAwfulTech @awful.systems

    Advent of Code 2024 - Historian goes looking for history in all the wrong places

    adventofcode.com
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    New article from reflective altruism guy starring Scott Alexander and the Biodiversity Brigade

    reflectivealtruism.com /2024/10/31/human-biodiversity-part-4-astral-codex-ten/
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    It can't be that the bullshit machine doesn't know 2023 from 2024, you must be organizing your data wrong (wsj)

    archive.ph /dlyen
  • TechTakes @awful.systems

    Generating (often non-con) porn is the new crypto mining

    www.pcgamer.com /hardware/an-ai-company-has-been-generating-porn-with-gamers-idle-gpu-time-in-exchange-for-fortnite-skins-and-roblox-gift-cards/
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    SBF's effective altruism and rationalism considered an aggravating circumstance in sentencing

    www.citationneeded.news /sam-bankman-frieds-sentencing/
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    Rationalist org bets random substack poster $100K that he can't disprove their covid lab leak hypothesis, you'll never guess what happens next

  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    Hi, I'm Scott Alexander and I will now explain why every disease is in fact just poor genetics by using play-doh statistics to sorta refute a super specific point about schizophrenia heritability.

    www.astralcodexten.com /p/some-unintuitive-properties-of-polygenic
  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    Reply guy EY attempts incredibly convoluted offer to meet him half-way by implying AI body pillows are a vanguard threat that will lead to human extinction...

    nitter.net /AndrewYNg/status/1736577228828496179