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Linux Mobile Distro postmarketOS Adopts systemd to Better Support GNOME, KDE Plasma

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Linux Mobile Distro postmarketOS Adopts systemd to Better Support GNOME, KDE Plasma - 9to5Linux

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to clarify:
The developers of the Alpine Linux-based postmarketOS mobile distribution today that they’re now supporting the systemd init system alongside OpenRC and other alternative init systems.
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postmarketOS currently supports the Sxmo, Phosh, GNOME Shell on Mobile, and KDE Plasma Mobile UIs. While the Sxmo images will stay with OpenRC, the GNOME and KDE Plasma Mobile images will be built on top of systemd
thank christ, it sucks to see projects let perfection be the enemy of good.
a project can be as ideologically pure as it wants, but it's not gonna accomplish much if that handicaps it out of anyone seriously using it.
PostmarketOS has had really strange priorities lately. I'm not a fan of the whole ethos of Ubuntu mobile (including their use of SystemD) but at least they have stuck to actually getting every feature working on some devices with reasonable specs. My computer uses KDE and OpenRC and has far fewer issues than it did on SystemD. This feels like a waste of resources to reinvent the wheel.
- Reinventing the wheel is what they were doing without Systemd.
  On their announcement they cite various instances of having to write polyfills and ending up with basically 'Systemd at home' but buggier.
  
  Reinventing the wheel is what they were doing without Systemd.
  Weird. We had those wheels before Lennart's cancer showed up.
- The project is in an too early phase to debate over SystemD. Can you guys please hold back with these arguments until pmOS reaches at least 4% market share.
  
  There is no minimum market share threshold to discuss the way the software you use is being developed and PostmarketOS will not reach 4% in the foreseeable future (and it probably never will). Desktop Linux only just reached that threshold after decades of work and systemd arguments have been happening for years regardless. The conditions for mobile Linux are considerably less favorable. If we can't discuss systemd until 4% is reached, we can't discuss systemd ever. Which is fair, because the systemd horse has already been beaten to death at this point. But not because it hasn't reached some arbitrary 4% threshold. That makes no sense.
  
  Well you're right but the more postmarketOS grows, the harder it is to switch to another init system
- ive been working on migrating away from systemd myself, so much headaches. I like the services setup, but man the issues can sometimes be baffling
  
  Isn't Linux without systemd just a hobbyists niche exercise in masturbation though, let's be real.
Plasma mobile looks way better than phosh IMO. Glad that the mobile environment will resemble the desktop environment. Makes it easier to do cross-platform stuff.
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- Phosh kinda sucks, idk how it is on Librem devices, but on PmOS it's super clunky.
  
  Dunno what it looks like now, but back then it sucked on Librem too. I can understand trying to do different stuff, but they made the experience worse and I haven't looked back from KDE mobile.
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Great, this should help attract the mainstream linux user more

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