Virginia House approves assault weapons ban
Virginia House approves assault weapons ban
The Virginia House of Delegates approved an assault weapons ban on a party line vote Friday. Fairfax County Democratic Del. Dan Helmer’s bill would end the sale and transfer of assault firearms manufactured after July 1, 2024. It also prohibits the sale of certain large capacity magazines. “This bil...
The Virginia House of Delegates approved an assault weapons ban on a party line vote Friday.
Fairfax County Democratic Del. Dan Helmer’s bill would end the sale and transfer of assault firearms manufactured after July 1, 2024. It also prohibits the sale of certain large capacity magazines.
“This bill would stop the sale of weapons similar to those I and many of the other veterans carried in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Helmer said.
weapons similar to those I and many of the other veterans carried in Iraq and Afghanistan
And so what? Americans have always had equivalent, or better, rifles than the military. (I know nothing about the presenter, been told he's rightwing, but there are no political opinions presented.)
So why is weapon choice suddenly a problem? We had AR-15s when I was a child in the 70s. If you would like a weapon that passes this ban, let me introduce the Ruger Mini-14.
FFS, we have a social problem, not a gun problem.
Liberals: "We want gun bans! Lotsa bans!"
Uh, that backfired over alcohol, drugs and abortion...
Liberals: "STFU! BANS!"
Our society is sick, and dems are fighting a losing battle and losing votes. FFS, these idiots could win every election if they would drop these ineffectual bans and get on board with helping us.
Liberals: Ok, let's fund mental healthcare or a social safety net to solve that social problem.
The same people complaining about this law: REE!! Communism, socialism, trans pedophiles in bathrooms...
Gun violence: a co-location of guns and violence.
We can get rid of the violence without getting rid of the guns. (Guns have different effects on violence depending on how you ask the question, by the way.)
Anyway, policies I support that would reduce gun violence that have nothing to do with guns:
*Medicare for all
*Walkable towns of all sizes
*Ban right to work
*Increase in convenient public hang out spaces
*After school group therapy
*$20 minimum wage
*Ban single family housing zoning
*Ban single use residential zoning
*Night sky safe lighting
*Sugar tax
*End corn subsidies
*Mixed agriculture subsidies
*The world's fastest bullet train network
*Ban gas and oil (with change-over subsidies)
*Require biodegradable packaging
*Prosecute wage theft
*Narrow police responsibilities and hand off functions to other groups (E.G. social workers and traffic-specific ticketters)
*Ban bail
*Ban shit tons of stuff surrounding probation/parole
*Ban charging inmates or their families for anything
*Ban civil asset forfeiture
*Rehabilitative prison
*Provide school lunch
*Free college
*House the homeless
*Fund public defenders at the same rate as prosecutors
*Tighter noise pollution laws
*Probably other stuff
FFS, we have a social problem, not a gun problem.
Then when you're all done fixing those social problems, you can have your guns back.
If you don't like idea, jump in your time machine and fuck off back to the 70s.
It's theater. They want to seem as if they're doing something about the problem, so they pass laws that sure do seem like they're relevant if you pay zero attention, in the hope the public is appeased. How appeased the public actually is, I have no idea.
Yeah they're plenty appeased. They see the constant mass shootings in America and say "thank fuck we don't live there". When their laws do fail, they're scrutinized by the public and the press. They demand to know how it happened and what is being done to stop it happening again. They demand accountability for anyone who dropped the ball.
It's measurably more effective than starting a gun worshiping cult and threatening children who survived school shootings.
If we're talking theatre though, remind us again now many tyrants America has overthrown? How is the crime rate going? How are rights going for women and minorities under the most pro-gun candidates?
And so what? Americans have always had equivalent, or better, rifles than the military.
hahahaha
This is a fact. The military just gets better toys than rifles alone.
I wonder what database is in place that would allow them to determine what weapons were made after that date. It seems there would be a lot room for getting around that aside from just buying used.
When a firearm is manufactured by a licensed individual or company, it is logged into a book or database. When a firearms retailer receives a firearm, they log it into a book or database. When that firearm is sold, it is logged into a book or database. That is federal law.
Some manufacturers include the date of manufacture with paperwork, but that may only be month and year.
To my knowledge, there is no way for an FFL(licensed firearm retailer) to know a precise date of manufacture without inquiring with the manufacturer if it is not provided with the documents that are supplied.
The law is poorly written, so the real-world effect would be no new sales of specified firearms after the effective date. How restricting the sale of new firearms and not all firearms of the type that they want to restrict does anything is outside of my understanding.
How restricting the sale of new firearms and not all firearms of the type that they want to restrict does anything is outside of my understanding.
Love this phrase. I may start using it regularly. Like, in response to other things as well... It's so... Good. Thank you.
What are the odds a court deems this unconstitutional?
that question depends on when glenn youngkin is up for re-election
I'd argue that you could ban anything that you don't have to manually pack gunpowder into.
That's what was available when the constitution was penned.
You don't even need to ban the guns. Just ban bullets.
That's a bad precedent to set. There are certainly reasons why this can be upheld, but saying that anything new is by default banned unless explicitly allowed is the opposite of what it states in the constitution.
That would allow for decisions like the freedom of speech doesn't exist on the internet because the internet didn't exist when the constitution was penned.
A potential loophole: many rifle owners save money by pressing their own cartridges. The tools required are a bit pricey but not out of reach for the average person. You'd have to use some careful wording to ban home made bullets but not muzzleloaders.
That's a word they'd use but the actual reasons would not be mentioned as mentioning them would be damaging to the collective American psyche.
Only if the court is part of a well regulated militia
I was kind of hoping the rampant gun nuttery of Reddit would be one of the things that didn’t migrate over here. But, no such luck. So long, Lemmy. It’s been real.