I'm from the generation of hackers who's old enough to have believed in the hacker's manifesto but young enough to have spread the whole of "white hat/black hat" meme and yeah... It was completely bullshit the whole time. Today there are still people who I talk to who are like "oh, you're not one of those bad hackers though, right?" Like which ones? The ones who work for governments or who keep banks from getting hacked, cause yeah I've worked on DRM and helped keep things expensive that should be free. It feels bad because it is bad, and they lie to you and tell you you're "making sure Grandma is safe on the internet" but these fucking companies are feeding your grandmas conspiracy theories. They are the bad ones, and the "white hats" are keeping the injustice going...just like some other motherfuckers who like to wear white hoods and defend the status quo.
Yeah, fuck that. Illegalism is 100% legit and I wish you the best.
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I think people need to be more comfortable with illegalism and I'm not kidding. Of course the more legal something is, the safer and easier it is to do, but the more people who disregard the law, the harder it is to enforce. There are plenty of laws on the books that people just ignore and are never or rarely policed.
Becoming more comfortable with little illegal activities makes you more comfortable with bigger more important illegal activities. Additionally, it is crucial to build a wall of silence. Nobody talks everybody walks.
People who give out food without a permit, hold a march without a permit, grow a garden without a permit, are more likely to be people you could turn to to work with on preventing an eviction, or keeping people out of cop hands, or helping your friend Jane get crucial healthcare when it's not legal in your state.
Communities comfortable with these acts won't call the cops, and then nobody knows that it's happening.
People have got to shift from both the idea that lawful = good/ illegal = bad, and that the illegality of something means that's the end of it, and the only fight left is to make it legal again.
#in tandem with this is the idea that the more people reject someone's authority as 'inherent' the harder people are to control #anarchism #illegalism #LJsm
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Fuck off, if you want to reject societies norms go live in the woods but don't drag the rest of us down with you.
As a queer person unfortunate to be born in Russia, society doesn't want me to exist. Fuck you and your societal norms
You said a bad word, societies norms indicate that you should be shunned.
Fuck off loser
Societies rules also claim those woods are someone else's property, and you'd be trespassing by just going there, much less living. If you don't get permission to be on the land and permit to build a house, they send armed people after you to beat you up and throw you in a concrete room. Or, if you're (un?)lucky, they'd make you be called to court, and when you return to your house afterwards, you'd find it coincidently burned down. That's something that actually happened to someone in the USA once, some years ago.
If shoplifting is such a danger to society that its dragging all of us down, i better steal some more. Thanks for the motivation.
There is usually a reason something is deemed illegal by society.
And no, the answer isn't always just greed. But more like its hurting other people, even when you think it doesn't.
If something hurts other people, you shouldn't do it because it's immoral, whether it's legal or not.
You, as a person, have a responsibility to decide whether an act is moral or immoral and act accordingly, regardless of what other people decided about it in the past.
Obeying the law because you assume the people who made the law had a good reason abrogates your own responsibility for your actions.
I agree completely with what you're saying, but what the other user is saying isn't wrong either: there is always a reason for something to be illegal, and, before you decide to break a law, you should make sure you know why it's illegal and what the possible consequences of breaking it (other than legal) might be.
It's sort of like writing a book or making a film. There are lots of "rules" to follow about how those things should be done, and there are plenty of good reasons for those rules to exist, however all the best artists tend to break those rules - but that's because they know what they are doing, and how to make it work. Another example is the billionaire submarine which crashed. They chose not to follow a lot of safety regulations in regard to the making/using of the sub, and the result was what we know.
In short, if you want to break the rules in regard to anything, it's important to be aware of what exactly you are doing, and why those rules exist in the first place.
As long as there is a criminal class, I am of it.
