But I don't want the remaining redditors. :(
There are plenty of Redditors who should switch but just haven't yet because 3rd party apps still kinda work. Then again I also agree Lemmy doesn't need the average big sub enjoying Redditor just yet.
Yeah... What's that about? How come they still work?
Can we just poach the remaining good ones?
I.e. the authors, the quality OC creators, and the people from niche hobby subreddits.
Lemmy is not ready for a full influx. The (fairly minor) influx recently almost brought several instances to their knees. The technology needs to have the kinks worked out of it. Most of us here are accepting of its current flaws, and want to work to improve it. The average redditer won't be.
On top of that, the community needs to stabilise and grow slowly for now. It's like wine. If you drink 100 bottles in a week, it will likely kill you. The same amount over a year and it's fine. It takes time to filter out the toxicity from new redditers, and integrate them. As we grow, we will be able to handle more, but not right now. I still remember the influx from digg to Reddit. The fundamental feel of it never quite recovered. Lemmy has that feel currently, we want it to stay as best we can.
A counterpoint to the idea that the clunkiness that keeps away the masses should be Threads. A couple of days in and they are full with hate and bullshit because they had millions right away. I know the format is different from here, but I think the concept still applies.
Slow steady growth of people who have to think critically to really use the platform is better than explosive growth from every ignoramus signing up to spew drivel. At least that's my perception of it all.
They're full of hate and bullshit because it's just the entire American populace who uses Instagram. I'm unfortunately one of these people who reads Instagram comments and they were always full of terrible people saying objectively shitty things.
Slow and steady is definitely best. New lemmings can learn the new (and hopefully better) netiquette, then help spread it to the next wave.
The other option is what happened to threads. Loudest wins, and the negative Right are VERY loud.
This is a good point. As a 16 year Reddit user, the digg migration was really the beginning of the long end. Going slow is indeed the best way. And honestly, being big is not even necessarily a good thing for this type of community.
As 15+ yr old reddit user, can't agree more. The digg migration was the best and worst thing to happen to reddit imo. It really boosted communities yes however it also significantly lowered the content quality.
I think one of the major issues is how poorly we're doing at directing people to individual instances.
Lemmy works fine if we have a bunch of good / stable instances created for a variety of different topics and users spread out. All the kinks and things do need to be worked out, but at the same time there needs to be a better way of load-balancing people to different instances. Either that or the entire backend needs to be re-written to allow better load-balancing. I can't imagine lemmy.world can survive another major influx of users.
We're just a small small portion of the reddit userbase. Lemmy will explode if there's ever a mass migration.
Yup. This place is currently fine for people who can stomach the quirks and missing features and you don't want them to come, feel overwhelmed about how it isn't truly like reddit yet and then leave and not consider coming back
You don’t want most of r/NBA here. Trust.
What’s the deal with that sub? People keep mentioning it.
(Just my personal observation)
Basically during the subreddit lockdowns most of the users there didn't and still don't give a fuck about the api changes, which is understandable. The NBA finals were going on at the time, and while that contributed towards their disdain towards shutting the sub down, I personally think even if it was off-season they still would have the same attitude. But none of that actually makes them poor users.
The issue primarily is that the whole fiasco revealed a lot of their true colors. Most of the posters are willing to bootlick and grovel as long as they get what they want; which is a place to shitpost/discuss the NBA. They do not care how trash the official app is and generally think the people complaining are crying nerds that need to touch grass. It's fair to not care about people complaining about using unofficial apps, but not understanding how the api changes eventually affects them and their precious sub is sad to see. Even worse was when some of them went out of their way to disseminate misleading information everywhere.
You know how Reddit started degrading as more and more """normal""" people started piling in? That's them basically. They never came to the site early on to grow it, only near its twilight years to inevitably cause its downfall. This place right now is awesome, but once you get a userbase that's comparable to youtube comments, it gets bad.
You boomed them (4x)
I am one hundred percent okay with not having people migrate so soon. I've been enjoying the good vibes here!
Seriously, I don't want to convince ANYONE that's still over there to move over here. The reason discourse here is so good is because people here are either intelligent, principled, motivated, forward-looking, or a combination of the four. We don't need the dregs. Maybe unpopular opinion, but with trash people we will get trash content. Reddit was trending that way long before the API meltdown, and Lemmy moderation is not ready for that.
And lemmy.world’s c/atheism isn’t as big of a “religious people bad reee” circlejerk as r/atheism, it seems a lot more nuanced in its criticisms of religion and mostly takes the “love the non-forceful believer, hate the belief” approach. I really don’t want to see that change, the neckbearded assholes on its original reddit version are a big reason why we’re hated. I also appreciate lemmy.ml and lemmygrad being considered laughingstocks for their tankieness, as opposed to everyone who dares criticize them for that being downvoted to oblivion and screeched at by wealthy 13-year-old Americans who just discovered politics and think they’re communist just because they say “comrade” every 5 seconds, know 2 russian words (both of which are obscenities) and “bravely” blasted the soviet anthem in class and then crying on reddit about how they got bullied for telling that one kid of ukrainian descent about how their great-grandparents were time traveling slave owners who deserved it.
Uhhh, I don't think I want them here. Just wish there were more niche communities here
Exactly -- more users are (most of the time) a bad idea. Let's keep it a niche.
A slow, steady transfer would be best. We get the communities, without losing the improved netiquette.
I'd say to give it a bit longer before pushing average Redditors to come here. Lemmy is still unstable, and things like the sudden fall of VLemmy or the hacking of Lemmy.world can be enough to get normal users to give up on a new platform.
"Remaining" like it isn't millions of people, lol
This looks like a Chick Tract, a wild religious cartoon series that I learned about this year. Crazy shit.
I used to read those as a little kid decades ago because 'cartoons' (which is exactly why they make them) but even then I knew that dude was off his rocker.
Funnily enough, today's episode of the podcast 99% Invisible was about Chick Tracts. It hit my feed about two hours after I posted about it. It has to be a sign!
