It’s not just Apollo: other Reddit apps are shutting down, too (from The Verge)
It’s not just Apollo: other Reddit apps are shutting down, too (from The Verge)
Like Apollo, they’re shutting down on June 30th.
The ama convinced me they kill old.Reddit as soon as they get the sense that this has ‘blown over.’ By October for sure.
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this is what im expecting too, which is why im trying the migration thing rather than just sticking to desktop/browser-only. might as well stay ahead of them
Same. I'll probably still use reddit on desktop to use some of the communities I like that aren't in lemmy yet, but I'm gonna use lemmy only on mobile.
even though he said old.reddit will stay around, and him lying on everything today in the AMA i wouldn’t be surprised if it got taken down soon after the API change goes into effect
It's funny how he phrased it: "old.reddit.com isn't going anywhere, and explicit content is still allowed.
Phrased it like it could change in the near future.
Yeah, I don't see any reason for spez to put it in the OP unless it's on the chopping block too.
The main 2 changes they want to make before the IPO are killing old reddit (no/less data siphoning, css, no stupid nfts/animations/other dumb attempts at monetization) and removing anything nsfw (not just porn, anything considered nsfw like gore, violence, etc. This means state/police violence gets removed, anything to do with war gets removed.)
idk how much impact banning third party apps will have, but if/when they get rid of old reddit, that will be much worse for them. right now at least there's that as the last bastion of classic reddit pre-enshittification. Many subreddits will just outright stop working as they rely on classic css for critical features (as well as bots, the api will eventually be rendered unusable for them as well probably). Also, moderation is hard/impossible on new reddit or the official app. At that point, discussions about moving the subreddit to a custom css lemmy instance start happening.
then goes porn subreddits. Tbh, those users and that content is actually a net negative on the business in general i'm guessing (no ads served, google/apple/mastercard/visa breathing down their necks). That's still a hell of a lot of users lost permanently, which is X less on the active user count to show to investors.
I'm just wondering, by the time they get to their IPO, all of these changes will have turned away basically all veteran reddit users and moderators. I don't think they're going to put up with rebellious moderators, they'll just replace them (there's already going to be a list of "reddit approved moderators" that can use mod bots, this is the start of that). Will there even be anything left by IPO time? Will there even be an IPO, if the users go down by 40% like tumblr? I mean, they could easily just pivot to a mainstream facebook/instagram/tiktok alternative, but will it work? Those apps already exist. Why would anyone ever go from them to reddit? They'd have to be filling a market gap, like tiktok did after vine got shut down. I just don't see it happening.
I thought that the nsfw content was going to be still available, just not exposed in the API. They know that porn sells so I think that the idea is: you wanna see NSFW? You gotta go through the official app so we can get that sweet money of ads/user usage/user engagement, thing that if they allowed the NSFW content through the API they will lose
Yep. I think this is pretty much guaranteed at this point. Can't have anything users actually want to keep around, that might hurt profits.
I would love it if Christian would make a Lemmy client. The idea and technology powering Lemmy is great, but it desperately needs a client with a user centered design.
The devs were not ready for a sudden influx of users. But with influx users some more devs have joined the contribution too, so hopefully improvements will come frequently.
I'm hopeful i'm enjoying kbin thus far but this its a bit confusing lol a simplified mobile design would be awesome
I was a RIF user for as long as it's been around, and have had a Reddit account for 12+ years now. It's unfortunate to have to walk away, but I honestly had been hating it there for a while.
Definitely. I work from home, so I use old.reddit most of the time, but any time I'm away from my machine, I'll use RIF. Wouldn't touch their app with a 10 foot pole, and in a mobile browser it isn't great either. Behind the scenes the whole place is crumbling.
Hardly surprising. Any popular app is going to have enough users that it doesn’t make economic sense to stay. A niche app that’s halfway decent will soon have enough users they’ll need to fold to.
ljdawson wrote that she's looking into "Sync for Lemmy" a couple hours ago. Sync's my favorite Reddit client (best tablet support on Android IMHO), so that would be great.
That would be awesome!
I'd be sold in an instant.
Does anyone know if Infinity for Reddit is shutting down too?
It's fairly safe to assume that all third party reddit apps will be shutting down. The price they've been quoted for API access is simply too high, and I don't think any of the devs are rich enough to keep it running out of their own pockets. I wouldn't be surprised to see some apps try to stay up, but I highly doubt they can last long term.
Either that or they'd have to start charging each user tons of money, and/or disabling free users entirely.
In the recent AMA it was said that apps that focus on accessibility might get free access, but based on what devs are saying about having trouble getting in touch with anyone at reddit, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
RedReader has posted that they have officially received an exclusion from the API fees due to their extensive accessibility features for those who are blind or visually impaired. So if anyone wants to use reddit without the official app, that app will stay up past June 30th. I have a feeling that Reddit will focus some development on accessibility, and if a lot of people switch over to RedReader to avoid the ads and bullshit in the official app, Reddit will kill it. It's only a matter of time at this point.
RIP Reddplanet and Narwhal. For many people Apollo was their main, but for me I stuck by those two until the bitter end.
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