Tesla (TSLA) shares were lower in early trading, following a report from the Wall Street Journal claiming executives at both Tesla and SpaceX are concerned about Elon Musk’s illegal drug use. Musk denied the report, saying he is subjected to random drug testing by NASA. Yahoo Finance’s Seana Smith a...
I still can't believe that's a real thing he did, it's straight out of a comedy skit.
I loved when the writers would try to get in contact and would point out the reply in their articles. Seems they got tired of it after a while unfortunately.
Empathy is to understand another's emotional state. Sympathy is to effectively mirror it.
Buuuut, much like "literally" now means "figuratively" and "decimate" has lost all meaning after being mistaken for "devastate"... Carry on. The species is circling the drain anyhow.
No. I interacted with him on two occasions during the PayPal days. They were pitching PayPal as a payment mechanism for a bunch of our verticals. Even back then he was weird, awkward, and cringe. I think there is video of him back then taking possession of a McLaren and you can see how cringe he was.
EDIT: Found it.. On rewatch, it doesn't really show how insufferable he was in person. It's funny to see how x.com gets recycled though.
The number of lies that came out of that Muppets mouth during that cringy piece was remarkable. My fav had to be 'just three years ago i was sleeping on the floor on the YMCA hostel'. what an absolute fucking donkey of a human.
It's interesting to look back at his AMA on reddit in 2015. Every response was so to the point and on topic, even friendly. Clearly something changed since then.
I like John Oliver's take that he really didn't like the orders to shut down factories during pandemic and got a lot of support from 'mah freedom' nutjobs over this causing not-so-slow fall into the extreme right rabbit hole. It actually makes a lot of sense. He clearly craves attention and approval. He used to get it from the left because electric cars are green and SpaceX is cool technology but eventually the left began demanding more regulation and he started getting some criticism (which he doesn't like that much...). At the same time he noticed that the right is ready to accept him as the 'free speech savior' and love him unconditionally as long as he will help them 'own the libs' so he switched sides.
I think that Some More News’s take on it also gets to the point. He got vocally anti union and the left got vocally anti billionaire. Many CEOs seem to take pro union sentiment personally and he seems to be particularly sensitive.
Pretty much. After fucking up PayPal and getting kicked out for being an insufferable POS, he hired a PR firm who constructed the real life Tony Stark image for him on the public. Writing and getting press around his person. They also unfortunately had to tell him to not say or do certain stuff that would damage his image, there's nothing a narcissist hates more than being told no. They also allowed him to position Tesla as the futuristic libertarian ideal and the overpriced manufacturers they are now, and SpaceX as the renaissance of US space exploration. In my opinion not entirely undeserved perceptions but immensely amplified by a marketing machinery. Then he had a meltdown, fired every single PR, marketing person from every single one of his companies. Declared himself the only marketing that his companies needed. He essentially bought into the crap that his own PR wrote for him.
I can tell you that nothing has changed about him. I personally know people who worked with him at that time, and he was just as much an arrogant and insufferable egoist as he is now. Legendary screaming matches and him talking completely out of his ass about absolutely everything were the norm and expected in every meeting.
Do any research on his tenure at Zip2/PayPal or any relationship he's ever had, and you'll see Musk has always been a petulant child, he just had a lot of people around him to try and hide it, but it seems like he's scared basically all of them away.
No no, now that he has a drug problem, we're supposed to pretend he's not a narcissist, never said anything racist or sexist, and is just a misunderstood entrepreneur.
In 2018, for example, he took multiple tabs of acid at a party he hosted in Los Angeles. The next year he partied on magic mushrooms at an event in Mexico. In 2021, he took ketamine recreationally with his brother, Kimbal Musk, in Miami at a house party during Art Basel. He has taken illegal drugs with current SpaceX and former Tesla board member Steve Jurvetson.
Drugs are invoked a lot to explain and justify human behavior to some external factor. It's like when people say Nazis were on meth as an explaination for their actions, while not applying the same logic to basically every other military using amphetamines.
So, the guy smoked weed on camera and you're denying he's used drugs? He's also talked openly about his ketamine prescription, which you absolutely should know he got a prescription for AFTER he certainly tested positive for it. You don't have to simp this hard. He's already proud of you, and I bet your dad is too.
I'm not denying anything. I'm pointing out that everybody's leaping to a conclusion because it suits the "Musk bad!" mob narrative without even bothering to read the article where some doubt is cast on it.
Bill Clinton smoked weed once. Does that mean he's stoned right now?
You don’t have to simp this hard.
And here's the other common symptom of the "Musk bad!" mob mentality, the assumption that anyone who says anything not bad must be in some kind of "Musk good!" group.
He smoked pot live on camera. If he were actually getting random drug tests he would have failed instantly and had his clearance revoked. Because you can tell a clearance investigator that you murder hookers on the weekend after raw dogging them and nobody cares. But if you have ever even LOOKED AT the devil's lettuce, you are a security threat.
The reality is that "random drug testing" for clearance purposes mostly boils down to if you piss off someone AND don't have a supervisor who will tell their supervisors that you can't come to the piss truck today because you are super awesome and that this is hurting national security.
I would expect that they started doing the drug tests because he smoked pot live on camera. I recall there was rather a kerfuffle about it at the time.
I've worked in lots of places with random drug testing that were full of drug users. For almost everything but weed, drugs are out of your system within hours or days. Being subject to random testing doesn't mean he isn't using drugs.
It would not surprise me at all to find out that Elon Musk paid to develop a brain-dead clone of himself, simply to provide samples for drug tests while he smokes up all the freaking time
He has a prescription for ket, but people never abuse their prescriptions.
And no this isn't about being anti drug it's the harm and potential for more harm that it is causing others. That's when personal freedoms generally go out the window. Liberals are pretty consistent with that despite you trying to pretend it's arbitrary.
It also serves as a potential explanation for his truly insane behavior