Father of boy killed by school shooter asks for harshest penalty | School shooter Ethan Crumbley to be sentenced for Oxford, Michigan
Father of boy killed by school shooter asks for harshest penalty | School shooter Ethan Crumbley to be sentenced for Oxford, Michigan
Ethan Crumbley will be sentenced in a hearing Friday for killing four students and wounding seven others when he opened fire at Oxford High School in Michigan in November 2021. Follow here for the latest live news updates.
"Ethan Crumbley will be sentenced in a hearing Friday for killing four students and wounding seven others when he opened fire at Oxford High School in Michigan in November 2021. Live news updates."
Keep in mind he was god damn 15.
That kid should be given help, not just dumped into a prison.
I hate the American "justice" system. All this will lead to us for Ethan to become more dysfunctional and become more of a danger to society once he is out of juvenile. Because of fucking course mental care apparently doesn't exist.
He killed four of his classmates and wounded seven others. 15 years old is old enough to know how terrible the impact of his actions would be. There is certainly more that we as a society could have done to help him with his mental illness, but that does not erase his agency and make him not responsible for his crimes. He has more than earned his punishment.
Did he have much agency in this case? He texted his mother about hearing demons and ghosts and she did nothing. He kept a baby bird's head in a jar and tortured other animals and his parents sought no help for him. Instead, they bought him a fucking gun. He very clearly has some form of schizophrenia and/or sociopathy. When the obvious signs are there and the people responsible for him (his parents) actually enable his violent tendencies, can we really be surprised that he acted them out?
He does need mental health care, but he also needs punishment for taking the lives of 4 people. There is no way at 15, someone is unaware that killing 4 people is bad, and should be redeemed of any wrongdoing. Nope. At that age in the U.S., you already have a permit to drive. I agree he needs major help, but he shouldn't get to stay in a psych unit for the murder of 4 people. He knowingly and brutally stole the most valuable thing they had, their only chance at life. There must be consequences.
He's probably getting life. The judge said no parole was possible, but that does seem extreme for a 15 year old. He absolutely needed help, and his parents likely just caused further harm, fortunately they are also facing charges.
He should receive help, but he shouldn't be allowed to be with the general public.
I think it's obvious that his parents were mentally damaged and traumatized the boy, nevermind the neglect and tacit encouragement at the end.
Everyone is so hell bent on retribution, no matter the cost. What we want is someone who won't assault or murder others, owns their actions, and repays society to whatever degree possible - zero of those things are developed in prison.
more of a danger to society once he is out
Don't worry about that. He's not getting out.
Good.
Keep in mind he was god damn 15.
he was 15, and made a sophisticated plan to both murder innocents AND surrender himself so he could maximize the amount of time taking in his victim's suffering.
That kid should be given help
I'm not convinced there's any helping this psychopath.
He won't be getting out.
Nah. When I was 15 I knew shooting up a school was wrong and anyone who did it should suffer the consequences for their actions.
I'm excited for when you people start saying this about adults.
The sad part is, they'll probably release a rapist or child molester back into the world to make room for a kid that should be getting help.
Maybe, just maybe after some prison time he'll have a another chance at getting out.
The way the title was worded made me think that the harshest penalty was going to Oxford.
He looks like a school shooter.
Well whaddayaknow