Don’t make them do it. They’ll definitely do it

After I made a few jokes in the comments, I shifted.

One fascinating aspect of Lemmy is that it won't solely be the mods or admins choosing instances they associate with. As a user, you can too, isn't that pretty cool? Let's say in the future you find yourself disagreeing with what a particular instance is promoting or allowing. You have the freedom to join another instance instead. It's empowering to be able to switch instances as a user; just like that meme I imagine dramatic lemmings exclaiming “I’m leaving those gate keepers at X”

This concept signifies that you shouldn't become too attached to the identity of your accounts on a specific instance, which is probably a healthy mindset anyways. It also means that on Lemmy, everyone, including users, admins, and mods, has the flexibility to choose how and with whom they want to associate. Some instances may prioritize user privacy or choose to exclude certain types of content that contradicts their core beliefs. While some may label it as gatekeeping, it's important to recognize that people naturally gravitate towards communities of like-minded individuals.

What's really neat is that as a user, you don't even need to seek approval for this. You can create multiple accounts and join multiple instances, where all that’s required is for you to behave in a manner aligned with the code of ethics or conduct defined by the community. Ultimately that means the power lies in the user's ability to switch instances, to find the best home for themselves. So there is no need to worry what other instances are doing and it adds an interesting dynamic to the overall experience.

I'm really hoping that someday we'll have a process to enable migration like a DHT and a user private key that allows them to send out a message like "i was user@instance.a but now I'm user@instance.b"... I heard talks about cross-fediverse account linking (maybe like keybase?) So hopefully something like that
- Man, what would be perfect! Because as far as I see it, it’s one of the few inconveniences of federation on the user level, and that kind of aliasing would totally solve it.
- You can set something exactly like that to be your bio.
My main problem is, that the community I started gets less exposure now. That would be fine, if it was just people on instances like lemmygrad, where people congregate with whom I won't get along, anyway. But the beehaw people are not bad folks.
Heck, even an alt account of a tankie on a different instance might behave completely differently when they're not associated with the tankie account (hence no peer pressure).
With how things stand right now, I can't even do mod things remotely without bugging the community out, so while I personally am not tied to any instance, the community is, and right now, I'm hampered, too, whenever I wear the moderator hat.
I hope there's gonna be solutions for this some day, that let us move instances around. Communities are the reason people don't go elsewhere, it's probably also the reason many redditors don't leave that place.
- mind telling me why beehaw defederated?

I love the fact that even here, the mods having power over nothing gets to their heads.

Really has that reddit flavor, you know?

Those internet points be drivin them wild.
- scratching arm
  "Where's the karma man, I need my karma.
  I gotta make my points higher than anyone else, how else am I supposed to prove I'm better than other people"
  screams shit posts into the void

It's unfortunate. I got yelled at for saying fascists and Nazis should be deplatformed. Someone literally tried to "whatabout if we did that to LGBT people" me. I'm trying different instances in good faith, but the ones that hold that kind of logic aren't going to last long.
- Well, see, nazis hate Jews (and people of color, and leftists, and…), and LGBT people, uh, well, you see, they uh… anyway you can’t block one and not block the other. See what I mean?
  /s. Also, fuck off nazi punks.
- Ah gotta love that argument
  "We can't deplatform Nazis, we need to be a tolerant group."
  "They literally want us dead and are doing their best to make our existence illegal, tolerating that is not an option."
  Tolerance is a peace treaty, and the more people who understand that the better.
- Maybe look at figuring out how to host your own instance? I've got mine running on a 2 thread, 1gb ram server that'll cost me less than 10 usd a month. So far it actually seems to run rather smoothly.
  Then you get to choose who you federate with.
- Which instance was that?
what is EH?

I have my own empty instance!

All the power, all to myself...

Have you considered defederating everyone for the dopamine hit?
- Jokes aside, I feel like if the dopamine hit of merely browsing Lemmy and finding posts and communities you like, and enjoying good debates does not exceed the hit for defederating everyone, then you're doing it wrong.
Hell yeah
How well does it work in practice? Is that on your home LAN or a real public server instance? How much storage and growth for serving just you?
- I have my instance publically available, and been using Lemmy through it since. I have a couple of local communities (non-private) that I hope people start using, but hard being discovered, it seems.
  Started out with 1.6G usage day one, and since then I have grown to 1.96G.

Yup. I was here originally, went to beehaw, they defederated from lemmy.world where most of my subscriptions were… back to lemmy.ml lol

Funnily enough I started on Beehaw and when they defederated I went to Blajah
I'm here for a meme time and hopefully some communities that were popping off in Lemmy World
Blajah's pretty chill
Edit: Don't get me wrong though, I agree with their decision I just wanted to still be apart of communities I had already decided to join.
- I did that with Beehaw as my main and slrpnk as my secondary
They also defederated from sh.itjust.works, but I got a community to care for here, so I just made some "alts".
- The Beehaw announcement about defederating from sh.itjustworks struck me as very histrionic by the mods about defending their space. The vibe started getting weird after the defederation.
  I personally have had a lot of fun in sh.itjustworks but I’m mostly subscribed to meme communities.

At least we get lemmy flavoured drama. It's not as bitter as Reddit's.

almost as if that's just human behavior
Yet
- We'll get there. I have full faith in us.

What happened this time?

Neocon/trumpers/racists are coming on various federated lemmy systems. Once there they are posting rando crap and pushing people to ignore the basic requirements most lemmy system admins have setup. No hate, no bigotry, no racism.
It's probably about how beehaw defederated lemmy.world or something
- Beehaw didn't defederate because .world is a cesspool. There were a handful of idiots trolling, using .world accounts (and sh.itjust.works), and Beehaw cut contact until the mod tools are up to the task.
  Yes, the behaviour of a few hurt a large number of people, but they knew no better way to solve it. It's also not a permanent defed, just a bandaid fix until the tools are better.
- I'm new to the fediverse, but isn't it sort of shooting themselves in the foot to defederate the biggest instance so far?
- They did? What for?
Is it this time about the explodingheads one?

Don't talk to me or my worker bees ever again!

Lol kinda true

Threatening to poop is an equally terrifying thing to use as a threat

Pls stop

New to Lemmy,

Which instances would everyone say is the least reddit powermody? (I'm sure none is the answer, but if you had to choose)

Probably lemmy.ml, the official instance.
I know they allow some instances that sole purpose is to hate on liberals, which is annoying to see so many aggressive political posts (any extremest is annoying), but they are easy to block yourself.
Beehaw is good, but they de-federate EVERYONE. I see posts from the admins there nearly daily talking about new instances they are de-federating from today. They also disabled down-voting, and community creation.
https://beehaw.org/post/798826?scrollToComments=true
https://beehaw.org/post/567170?scrollToComments=true
- I think it's awesome that they are disabling downvoting. One of the worst things about reddit was that comments were downvoted and authors deleted their comments because of it. All because of sensitive snowflakes.
  And as for defederation, they have 100% right to do what they want to protect their community. It's a community that is used to being disliked or hated. It's a very good thing that they can have their own popular instance on the web without being forced to moderate hateful posts.
  Put it another way, should they be forced to moderate hateful posts so you and I can enjoy seeing their posts? I think we are fine without it, and specially knowing that they are happier this way.
- Cool. I signed up for the right one then.
  It's wild browsing Lemmy and it's full of users that think reddit wasn't biased enough in one direction.
  whoo lawd.