Men's Liberation @lemmy.ca BuddyTheBeefalo @lemmy.ml 9mo ago

Study suggest men refuse to ditch meat because it threatens their masculinity

www.totallyveganbuzz.com New Study Finds That Masculine Language Reshapes Men's Perspective on Vegan Dishes - vegconomist - the vegan business magazine

A new study published in Frontiers in Communication about masculinity and veganism found that using masculine language or attributes to describe vegan

New Study Finds That Masculine Language Reshapes Men's Perspective on Vegan Dishes - vegconomist - the vegan business magazine

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Or it is that seasoned chared flesh is really tasty. One of those two.
- The way I do it (cast iron pan on the BBQ, screamin' hot at 700+C) is super delicious. So much so that I think I might fire up a steak this weekend. Gotta check the weather forecast to see if it's worthwhile.
"Fellas, is it gay to eat a salad?"
- „I don’t know. Wanna toss mine?“
  
  Here ... let me push in your stool .... adjusts your bar stool from behind
- Avoid eating from the rainbow!
And so is heart disease. Nothing more masculine as dropping from a clogged heart.
- Or diabetes and GERD ... nothing like frothing at the mouth with a diabetic attack or sleeping with a breathing mask and oxygen to make you look like a man.
  
  As a diabetic your example, well intentioned as it may be, is completely wrong in pretty much every way.
Pretty bad editorialising of the headline there, OP. That's really not what the study showed. It was more nuanced than that.
- Which headline/article are you getting? I edited it 30 seconds after posting. Maybe there are federation problems with the update.
  
  edit: from lemmy.ca it looks like the preview of the article is not updated, the link is. from lemmy.ml, everything is fine.
  
  Ah, I’m seeing “ Study suggest men refuse to ditch meat because it threatens their masculinity”
I'd eat dog food if it hit my macros and tasted ok. My food choices don't dictate how masculine I feel.
- I've discovered TVP recently. Very cheap and dense source of protein. My partner likes to joke that I'm eating dog food, and I'm starting to think that she might be right considering that dog food keeps coming up when I search for TVP.
  
  Interesting, I just searched it and yea the stuff I found does kind of look like dog food lol. I will see if I can find some and try it out. Thanks for the suggestion.
Reminds me of a recent video by Our Changing Climate about how patriarchy may be driving/energizing the climate crisis. It's on Nebula or Youtube for anyone who wants to watch.
I find it interesting how most of those "studies" take a very shallow approach with main premise: how to perrle vegetarian/vegan lifestyle. I have no problem with folks eating whatever the heck they like, but stop peddling me your preferences based on pseudo-science. I've been eating "clean" for over a decade now amd I can say with certainty that vegetarian/vegan diet will near damn kill me at best it'll cripple me: sensitive to gluten, sugar and nuts, baloon from carbs. Not dealing great with soy etc. Any in-store "vegan" choices nutrutionally inferior to non-vegan as it stands (I do not say they are inheritently so but that the current fact). Industry is busy using adversarial politics pushing more addictive and harmful stuff onto our collective plates and we say nothing.

There's not such thing as "universal dietary profile". I.e. we need our choices across entire spectrum. Some of us can't tolerate certain foods, and that's not the reason to vilify or victimize.
I can see that, especially in the USA. Can't have those giant burgers, steaks and ribs made from tofu or soy can you?

All those cowboys would be out of a job, and I bet the NRA are having none of it!
- That's not rooted in masculinity, though, but rather "American exceptionalism".
It seems to be an EU-based study. The design part of the paper doesn't say which nationalities were studied, although maybe they mention it elsewhere in the document. I'd be interested in this because it's very much a cultural thing. There are part of the world where vegetarian food is the norm for both men and women.
- India: An overwhelming 83.4 per cent of men and 70.6 per cent of women in the 15-49 age group eat non-vegetarian food daily, weekly or occasionally.
  
  Where else is vegetarian food the 'norm'?
  
  Africa .... check the rates of heart disease and intestinal problems in most African nations compared to the US and Canada. They may suffer from all kinds of other preventable diseases, malnutrition and violent conflict ... but they don't suffer from over indulgence.
- It's from australia
- The article at least says "The researchers conducted an online experiment with 593 participants in Germany" so it's probably primarily Germans?
It threatens my options. I don't believe it's healthy to rule out 95% of the world's food options, and that's the only reason I keep eating meat. If I knew there was great veg food everywhere, it would be easily done and I'd prefer to at least make meat a 3 times a year thing or less.

Edit: I'm really fucking curious. Can someone tell me what there is to downvote here? Are you truly threatened by the idea of not eating meat or what could it possibly be?
- can anyone tell me what there is to downvote
  
  meat isn't "95% of the world's food options"
  
  there is great veg food all over the place, failure to find is a failure to look
  
  you're framing the choice as to whether to eat meat as some externally imposed thing when it's simply not. Choosing from among your options doesn't 'threaten' the options you didn't choose
  
  your tone is just generally gross and defensive
  
  I'm an omnivore too, but your arguments sound less like you considered the possibilities, rationally thought your way through to the best option then selected it, and more like you picked something and then tried to rationalize your way backward through the arguments to the options.
  
  Edit: oooooh nothing like asking for feedback and then getting pissy when you get it.
  
  Agreed, I also eat meat but I'm not going to frame it like I'm staving off some hardship lol meat is far pricier than 99% of your vegetarian/vegan options. I eat less of it now and skip the cow milk for an alternative and I also don't feel less masculine for doing so!
  
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Meat is threatening their masculinity if they ditch it? /j
lmao
No its because it tastes good.
- Sauces, marinades, vegtable broth and spices taste good.
  
  And I didn't plan on stopping eating those either

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