2023 Edelman report shows that China has the highest trust in government
2023 Edelman report shows that China has the highest trust in government
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Ah edelman, the consultancy bureau who helps countries prop up their image. This shit is about as believable as Qatar getting to host the world cup on merit. Imagine seeing this graph and thinking hmmm all these countries who have authoritarian and oppressive governments must be really good to their citizens, instead of thinking that people who speak out of line get shafted lmao.
It's bought propaganda. It's like being the shitty student in class who pays a hacker to adjust their grades but instead of something a bit believable asks for an A+. Anyways this shit isn't even meant for the outside world, it's just to affirm to their own people that being oppressed is a-OK.
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I don't know about you, but I would rather live in a country with an authoritarian and oppressive government that takes care of its citizens, instead of an authoritarian and oppressive government that oppresses its citizens to protect landlords and corporations profits like I do now.
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and free labor on the part of @yogthos@lemmy.ml to promote it.
Which is rich considering he's a well paid software engineer working out of a western Democracy.
Tankies. The world would be so bland without them.
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Could you cut that shit up with him being a "well paid" whatever? Have you even gone into Lemmygrad? Most people there are poor. I live in Argentina, one of the countries with biggest inflation in the world and I don't earn a fucking lot, what's your excuse there? Stop doing personal attacks, try to use a fucking argument otherwise you are being overly aggressive. There are people all over the world, from a lot of countries that your people have fucked up, so fucking use an argument or shut the fuck up because that's not the way to engage with anyone.
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As always you need to know how to read a survey like this one. The top answers are all countries that don't allow doesn't and have a very tight surveillance net. So no surprise in these answers.
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Imagine genuinely having convinced yourself that you can't gauge general public opinion in a country like China. Like there's a party operative hiding behind every corner listening. 😂
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Don't really need to when you've got facial recognition cameras everywhere. Also guessing they didn't ask the Uyghurs what they think. And regular Chinese folk can't really Google that shit now can they?
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This is your source, so desperate are you to spread good news about authoritarian regimes you don't even check your sources
One of the protesters, ex-Edelman employee Lucy Bridgewater, quit due to the agency’s ongoing relationship with oil majors and the impending climate catastrophe. Lucy said: “Edelman is a fine one to talk in its Trust Barometer about politicians misleading the public, when Edelman itself has been misleading us all for decades – first as lobbyists for the tobacco industry, and now the fossil fuel industry. Edelman uses its profound understanding of trust to manipulate public perception of our most pressing issues. We desperately need the great thinking and fresh ideas of our creative industries channelled into solving our greatest challenges – not actively and knowingly make them worse.”
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/s right?
Right?
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A high trust government usually reflected on people's behaviour and general society. You do not need a poll to say your citizens trust you. Paradoxically, if you get a survey in China asking if you approval/disapprove of the government, they will say approve and if anyone been to China you will know why. Talking about the government in China is a rabbit hole you don't want to go down on, especially if you are non-Chinese looking expat.
Polls are meaningless in China, the same attitudes during the Gang of Four (四人帮) still exists today. If Xi was ousted today, the opinion polls will change from 95% approval ratings to calling for his execution.
We seen this During the later stages of the Cultural Revolution, Chinese citizens continued to exhibit strong support for the Gang of Four and the Cultural Revolution. It is likely that if a poll had been conducted at that time, their approval rating would have been close to 100%.
However, following the events of the October 1976 coup, the Chinese people once again rejoiced and celebrated coup and death sentence (which was changed to life imprisonment later on) of the Gang of Four. An eminent writer, Guo Moruo (郭沫若), who had previously expressed admiration for Jiang Qing just a few months earlier, found himself criticizing her within the same year.
This pattern of shifting loyalties and public sentiments was not unique to this period alone. In fact, prior to the rise of the Gang of Four, similar instances occurred involving prominent figures like Lin Biao (林彪) and Liu Shaoqi (刘少奇).
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Citizens of authoritarian countries often trust their governments more than those in liberal democracies. This apparent paradox is easily explained by the tight control these governments maintain over what people can see and hear. Since Tiananmen the Chinese government has ramped up it's campaign to eradicate any opinions that are contrary to the government line, and now a whole generation has grown up in this new, hermetically sealed environment.
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It's impossible to systematically lie to an entire country's population about the country itself. It's never happened anywhere on Earth and will never do so with current technology. It is however trivial to lie about other countries, which I like to always keep in mind. Think for a moment what reason a Chinese person would even have to dislike their government, when they are clearly doing a good job and actually solving their problems. Even the victims of Tiananmen weren't those often talked-about "pro-Democracy" students, most were anti-liberalization communist worker protestors.
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Imagine if Joe Biden got on a stand tomorrow and told us all that there are no homeless people in America
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Citizens of authoritarian countries often trust their governments more than those in liberal democracies. This apparent paradox is easily explained by the tight control these governments maintain over what people can see and hear
Your argument was falsified by Harvard a 30 year long study they did on Chinese approval of their government. They found that 95% of the country approved of the government and they specifically say in that study that it is NOT to do with this magical orientalist brainwashing that you claim it is caused by but instead it is caused by the fact that the Chinese population sees constantly improving conditions in their lives. The study also states that their opinions of the government change negatively when conditions decline, just that it doesn't happen often.
Article on the study: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
The study: https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf
Quotes:
the attitudes of Chinese citizens appear to respond (both positively and negatively) to real changes in their material well-being,
Although state censorship and propaganda are widespread, our survey reveals that citizen perceptions of governmental performance respond most to real, measurable changes in individuals’ material well-being
You need to readjust your thinking. The fact of the matter is that the popularity of the government in China has nothing to do with the racist claim of brainwashing and control as you claim. And your own research institutions say that themselves. Nobody here can call Harvard biased in favour of the CPC. Nor can they fault a 30 year long completely independent study, literally the longest study of its kind.
Science completely contradicts the racist claims that you are simply regurgitating from reddit comment sections.
The reality of the popularity of the CPC among the Chinese people is that it has improved the lives of the people by incredible amounts, and continues to do so.
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Actually they're just really satisfied with the good job their government has done satisfying their needs.
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Buddy, entire books have been written on how western oligarch owned media works with western regimes to manipulate public opinion. Here are a couple you should read:
Thing is that no amount of propaganda can counter the actual lived experience of the people in a country. This is why there is growing social unrest despite the west having the most sophisticated and best funded propaganda in the world. People can see that their lives are constantly getting worse and they've lost trust in the system and the media.
If people's material conditions in China were declining the same way they are in the west, then people in China would lose faith in their system too. Yet, the opposite is happening because people are seeing their live improve drastically with each an every decade.
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massive deposits of lib cope in the comments, we can keep the copium factory working at max capacity for years at this rate. keep up the good work!
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Why wouldn't UAE or Saudi Arabia citizens not trust their government? Aren't lots of them family anyways, and spending lavishly on those who aren't?
Now women, or slave immigrants, I bet they didn't ask those.
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Lol, Saudis are litteraly scared to say ANYTHING about the government. I've been there. The way they explained it to me, you can be jailed for any criticism about the government. So yeah, I think they tend to say what they believe will keep them safe. Plus, I highly doubt any women would even have the right to answer a survey, so that takes 50% out of that statistic.