For real
For real
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Unironically disarm all cops and give the guns to trans people.
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Can us non-trans autistic folks get some guns? Like youre already giving guns to half the autistoc community.
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of course! don't worry, there are plenty of these things to go around.
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I take this as a metaphorical statement, not literally advocating gun violence.
I agree wholeheartedly that, speaking in metaphorical terms, it's useless placing flowers in the rifles that are ready to fire again. There comes a point where these absolute bigoted wankstains need to be called out, and have a fire started under the pedestals upon which they stand so damn proudly.
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Given the context of what community this is on, I kinda think it speaks to the right to self defense and the right to exist in a social climate where rabid, violent, right wing extremists want to eliminate trans people in every way possible.
And, just to throw this out there, it is not morally wrong to defend yourself against lethal threat or threat of significant bodily harm. It is also legal in every state in the US (check state and local laws though, as there are nuances).
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It's about the right to get bent
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But “get bent” refers to sodomy, in a typically derogatory context. It’s like saying “this sucks dick” to mean, “this is bad” (read: people who suck dick = less than). It’s the same as people saying, “this is gay” to mean bad. So really, we should be phasing out the phrase “get bent.”
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This reads to me as "I am not debating my right to exist [as a trans person or trans supporter]. I'm ready to defend myself and my allies if need be, to whatever extent is necessary. Back off or else."
So it comes across as a call to be ready to fight back, which would mean that if you're comfortable owning a gun or another weapon (or more comfortable owning a gun than not within the context of the current sociopolitical climate), it would be wise to have one on hand. I don't take it as a literal call to arms, it's more like an alternate, more direct/specific take on the Gadsden Flag. Not overtly hostile, but a clear warning that aggression will be responded to with an appropriate measure of self defense.
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Yeah, the lower right half makes it ambiguous. Is that a response to the top text, or a continuation of the sentiment?
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Yes, worship violence and fire arms some more. That's going to make the world a better place for sure!
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Spoken like someone who doesn't have their mere existence threatened by armed fascists on a daily basis.
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Where do you live, I'm guessing US?
When you're carrying a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Honestly, no idea why they haven't been controlled like here in Australia
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'you get further with a nice word and a gun than you do with a nice word alone'
If a fascist marches, do you ask them to please don't do that? Do you march against them?
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Must be nice to never worry about defending yourself.
Self defense is an inherent right of every living thing.
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I used to be a pacifist. I was robbed at gunpoint in my home in the middle of the night, And I told them to take anything they wanted, but they stabbed my girlfriend anyway.
I was no longer a pacifist. She was cooperating, she was quiet, none of us were armed, but one of those wannabe thuglets still put a knife into her arm.
I was unable to continue rationalizing pacifism if it meant the people around me got hurt. I took that kids eye out with my bare hand and tore the door off my stove ragdolling his friend.
Violence doesn't solve many problems, but it's one of the only things that can solve violence. I don't regret using violence to protect the people I care about.
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Yes, worship violence and fire arms some more. That's going to make the world a better place for sure!
Unironically yes.
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The left: ban all guns!
Also the left: defend yourself with guns!
Make up your mind.
Edit: as someone who arrived here from Everything who is not familiar with your community, I didn't know that you don't consider yourself liberals. The trans community is typically pretty liberal in my experience, so that association further influenced my response. Anyways, carry on, and don't mind me.
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Don't make me tap the "liberals aren't leftists and both US parties are liberal" sign
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"...we could remain armed and refuse to obey the new government, and we would be able, here and there, to carry out attempts at expropriation and organization of society along anarchist and communist lines. We could prevent the revolution from being halted at step one, and the people’s energies, roused by the insurrection, from being lulled back to sleep." - The Anarchist's Task, Errico Malatesta
“Let us continue [Bakunin’s] work, never forgetting that two things are necessary to be successful in a revolution, two things, as one of my comrades said in the trial at Lyon: an idea in the head, and a bullet in the rifle! The force of action guided by the force of Anarchist thought.” - Direct Struggle Against Capitalism, Pëtr Kropotkin
"Free people must be free to arm and defend themselves with the weapons they choose. While making all of society less violent, by changing the social conditions which breed various sorts of predation and abolishing political coercion, is the best way to stop aggressive acts, until then people should be able to have access to the means to defend themselves, including firearms." - An Anarchist Case Against Gun Control, Joe Peacott
'Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." - Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League, Karl Marx
"By direct action the Anarcho-Syndicalists mean every method of immediate warfare by the workers against their economic and political oppressors. Among these the outstanding are: the strike, in all its gradations from the simple wage-struggle to the general strike; the boycott; sabotage in its countless forms; anti-militarist propaganda; and in particularly critical cases, such, for example, as that in Spain today, armed resistance of the people for the protection of life and liberty." - Anarcho-Syndicalism: Theory and Practice, Rudolph Rocker
"Organised in grupos de afinidad, the anarchist urban guerrillas favoured clandestine forms of organisation, placing great store on the values of individual or small-group violence. The grupistas fulfilled a range of tasks, forming ‘defence squads’, which provided bodyguards for prominent activists, and organising armed collections for the unions in workplaces and on the streets..." - Anarchism and the City, Chris Ealham
“Anarchy is incessant, permanent revolt against all constituted order, war on the State and all its authorities, waged in every way and under every possible form: with the word and with every other outward sign, with acts of defiance and hostility, and above all with arms.” - Our Revolution, Carlo Cafiero
also see: "Ready for Revolution: The CNT Defense Committees in Barcelona 1933-38" which highlights FAI affinity groups doing weapons training. https://www.akpress.org/ready-for-revolution.html
and Socialist Rifle Association
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Not denying that it can be dangerous to own a gun but when violent fascists have gained power in a country with extremely lax gun laws then I think I'll take my chances of owning one.
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I haven't finished reading the study yet, but some thoughts so far:
- Those that believe they're at greater risk of being shot (for example, if they live in a high-crime area) are more likely to want to possess a gun.
- Those that had a gun but had "no chance to resist" (basically, they were uninvolved and caught a stray bullet) had a 4.46x higher chance of being shot than those not in possession. This seems to indicate that the increase is almost entirely correlation, and not caused by possession. Stray bullets can't tell if someone is in possession of a gun or not.
- Those that had a gun and had "at least some chance to resist" only had a 5.45x higher chance of being shot than those not in possession. This is only 1.22x higher than the "no chance to resist" group. Pretty impressive, considering that this includes scenarios where the attacker got the drop on the victim, as well as "mutual combat situations precipitated by a prior argument" where the fight might have been avoidable through deescalation.
- As far as I can tell so far, the control group isn't anything like "unarmed people that got robbed", it's random people in Philadelphia that were interviewed about what they were doing at the time their counterpart in the experimental group got shot.
- Engaging in a gunfight with an assailant and being shot may be preferable to cooperating in the hopes of being left unharmed, depending on the situation. Particularly when the assailant is a violent bigot that wants to kill (and maybe torture) you anyway.
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"Get bent" is kinda weak though lol.
I vote for "trans rights or else" for the white text
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Commenters: "but why are you posting about firearms though???"
Libs gonna lib