Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations
Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN
"Goonswarm games"
/me an EVE Online Player feeling kinda suspicious and not that surprised by the allegations.
type 1: EXTREME SUSPICION THINK EVERYTHING IS AI GENERATED. Thrash wildly when presented all images, audio, text, and movies in a desparate attempt to prove whether it's ai and should thus be shunned and hated.
type 2: not really care
I don't mind AI as long as it's filtered through humans. Like don't just generate something and ship it directly to the consumer. Use AI generated content as a stepping off point for what you want to create.
Most visual art I consume I'm not getting anything out of it that is diminished if it were not created by human hand.
It's mostly comics and "cool shit" and AI images are just as capable of being the illustration of a cool story. And the same rules apply - if a real artist draws wonky proportions or an extra finger, it might look a bit off but probably doesn't bother the viewer much as long as it's not all the time.
There are other situations where AI or any kind of simulation of humanity doesn't work. An ai generated story won't have the same kind of emotional connection, for example.
Watch out, you might trigger the AI haters.
I don't see anything to suggest AI was used in the making of the game, but I also don't see anything that suggests it was going to be a good game. So it may not have taken much pressure to get them to fold.
Why should we care about the tools they use? Results are important.
Because that tool was built by committing the largest IP theft in history. Not to mention the loss of jobs, the waste of water, waste of energy, spiking hardware prices, potential to dumb down all future generations.
But yeah, just a tool, same as wrench...
“But if we don’t do it, they will. And then they will win.”
IP theft
People learn in the same way
the waste of water, waste of energy,
People consume that too. Even while not working.
dumb down all future generations
Human specialists also let other people stop being specialists. When did specialisation become the norm? In the early paleolith? Earlier?
Oh go away
I do not believe that you think results are the only thing that matter, methods be damned. I think you do have a line you would draw somewhere. The rest of us simply draw ours in a different place than you do.
Fuck this site and their forced redirections.
Vapid anti-AI hate can cause quite a lot of damage. And what for? To feel like you're superior to everyone that you can spot all the AI errors?
Sure, shame a company for AI use if it's obviously bad or you have actual proof. But just guessing because you think it's AI is pretty shitty.
The strong feedback from them is that elements of the game are very likely AI-generated and thus has caused extreme damage to our brand and our company reputation.
These are not the words of a company who didnt know about the ai use. They hired them because they were gonna use ai so it would be cheap to produce, fans were rightfully upset to be fed slop, publisher backpedals so hard they close the studio.
You think if they didnt use ai here they'd do all that? Or would they instead say "we are sorry the quality doesn't appeal and we will work on it" not this
I read through the article. Apparently the studio shared work-in-progress content to prove it wasn't made using AI.
I don't know if they used AI or not, but this type of thing has been happening since the inception of gen AI. Shortly after the release of Stable Diffusion 1.5, moderators of r/Art were banning people who had been around for years because their art suddenly "looked like A.I." and told they should "Get a better art style."
In the intervening time, this type of thinking has spread. Just yesterday, I was watching a YouTube video, and they used a certain background in it which they had used before to no note. This time, however, one user claimed that background was A.I. That was all it took to send the comments into a deluge of hatred and accusations.
Here, though... I ask, if work-in-progress PSDs showing the in-progress art don't meet the burden of proof to sate these accusations, what does? How long will it be until the only safe form of art to avoid these accusations is a photo of a pencil sketch with a hand-written date nearby?
I hate how I personally have gotten suspicious of certain aesthetics after the flood of AI tools.
the cool thing here is you can, you know, do something about your own biases
Agreed, this is pretty annoying for me personally.
I don't even mind ML generated art in certain contexts if there is disclosure.
I honestly couldn't tell that from the video that the art is ML gen based and I feel like I have a relatively well developed sense for both LLM output and ML gen'd images.
The "work-in-progress" video proof in question basically showed some interface similar to a video editing program with assets popping in like layers, i.e. no actual drawing or concepts or anything.
Your point is very valid, but it also reads like you haven't seen the proof -- which, if anything, was even more of a nail to the coffin.
I haven't seen the proof myself. I searched and couldn't find it. The article above mentioned that they shared PSDs, so I assumed that was confirmation enough that they actually released PSD files of the work in progress.
clearly you just wrote this comment with ai… only ai would hyphenate “work-in-progress”.
disgusting….
/s
Ever seen that horror movie where the hand gets possessed? It's like that but my hand is AI.