Telegram starts to look like a super app, echoing WeChat
Telegram starts to look like a super app, echoing WeChat
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Telegram is a suprisingly good app.
- Open source clients
- Decent Linux client on the laptop (whatsapp desktop is just terrible)
- It can be downloaded without Google's appstore.
I wish other apps were half as good as Telegram.
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- More importantly, non-electron app.
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It bothers me that the major complaint is not the privacy issues or the people who own it behind the scenes...
but the technology used to build the desktop application. Electron is just a tool.
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Fucking hell 🤦♂️
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- Owned by the Russians
- Partnered with the
CCPTencent
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Hasn't the founder been a vocal critic of Russia for years, including the Ukraine war? I don't really see why that would be a concern, especially since Telegram is supposedly owned by a US LLC
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a yes, the ceo that isn't on russia and is viewd as a criminal for being against the war?
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"the russians" is the new "the jews" but for liberals, right?
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Better than being owned by Americans.
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Well, thats also easy since telegram clients dont do much more than displaying messages stored on a server. Its more a viewer than a full client.
And that compromises hard on privacy and security, which Signal and Whatsapp dont do, they have proper Clients that have to really handle and store incoming messages. And the E2EE makes it harder, developing an independent desktop client, like Signal always had and Whatsapp recently got. But both are mediocre at best, sure.
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I prefer Telegram to something owned by an American corporation.
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lol what are you smoking?!
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yeah it is too good for just to be called a messaging app, hope it will be more privacy focused
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Being foss and available on Linux is the prerequisite, it doesn't make the app "good"
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Yet WhatsApp is neither.
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The shitty forced "stories" did me question seriously this once wonderful app. If I'd want to look at crappy TikTok-like shorts from other people, I'd be on TikTok.
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Once I saw the stories I was like ok wtf. How do I turn this off?
Maybe revanced manager can do it.
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I'm using Nekogram, that at least allows to automatically hide (archive) them.
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Looks nice but https://github.com/nikitasius/Telegraher/issues/27
I fear that Telegram may ban user accounts...
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I was under impression that Google Play and Apple App Store don't allow apps that can do practically everything (super apps). Is it really allowed? If a completely new company submit a chat app that somehow includes taxy hailing, food delivery, nfc/qr wallet and micro-loan features all at once instead of adding those features gradually in future updates, would Apple and Google accept the app?
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WeChat and other composite apps are already on the stores, so I don’t see why others also wouldn’t be allowed.
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But outside China, WeChat is only a messaging app, right? The super app aspect is only available for China domestic users with a WeChat version distributed outside Play Store? Other notable super apps (Tata Neu, Grab, Gojek, etc) are also seemingly only operates in Asia. Or is there any US/EU-based super apps out there? Is the lack of western super apps caused by regulation, app store rules, or something else entirely?
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And Grab.
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Everyone complaining about both telegram and signal here should, idk, just start dead dropping handwritten notes to people inside of dead rats, like the true privacy experts.
Privacy is important, yes. But if all of my friends use telegram, I'm going to use it too. Not only that, I'm going to be happy about it, because the telegram app is 1000x better than pretty much any other messaging app.
braces for angry downvotes
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You don't understand, when it's only you in that platform, it's the ultimate privacy.
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Receive my angry upvote.
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It does have a ton of functions tbh. I use it to access bots and keep notes. Even repositories for apps - Revanced Extended uses it for e.g. !
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Telegram is rarely used in my country anyway.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Telegram, the popular messenger with 800 million monthly active users worldwide, is inching closer to adopting an ecosystem strategy that is reminiscent of WeChat’s super app approach.
To build out this super app platform, Telegram relies on a network of infrastructure partners both from the established tech world and the crypto space.
WeChat has pioneered the mini app model in China and now powers millions of them serving functions from payments, food delivery, e-commerce, ride-hailing, to driver’s license renewal, just to name a few.
The developers would also need to learn the programming languages of blockchain apps, which might actually be an easier barrier to overcome than the process of understanding the economic incentives that facilitate decentralized applications.
Importantly, payment functionality played a critical role in WeChat’s early rise as it instilled a habit among users to make daily transactions through the chat app.
It will be fascinating to witness what lessons Telegram and TON take from WeChat and how a mini app platform with a decentralized twist unfolds.
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The worst part is, they're partnering with Tencent.
Telegram is dead.
Am also gonna stick with signal, eyeing up matrix. But what issues? The only reason i haven't tested it out yet is none of my friends seem too keen on trying it.
It looks like the partnership with Tencent only extends to their Web3 blockchain thing, and there doesn't seem to be any partnership in the main app so it's not the end of the world - at least, for now.
Also, what even is this TON blockchain? I never knew Telegram had anything to do with crypto :/
Yeah, nah. Anything the CCP can slip it’s slimy festering little dick into, it will.
There’s no way in hell that Telegram is secure.
Telegram is partnering with tencent??
They are renting server space off a big company, not much different than AWS or Azure.
The entire point of E2EE is that it doesn't matter who the host is.
@photonicsorcerer What do you suggest as an alternative?
We have chat standard called XMPP created by literially the same org that makes standards for Internet and Email.
And there are other public protocols to choose from.
Signal
Signal for private conversations and for larger groups Matrix. Matrix can also be bridged to telegram effortlessly.