Telegram, the popular messenger with 800 million monthly active users worldwide, is inching closer to adopting an ecosystem strategy that is reminiscent
Signal has Stories too, tbh. All apps are beginning to integrate them. Still, they suck.
The worst thing about Telegram was and still is that End to End encryption is a special add on feature and not the default. Group chats aren't secure either. The only reason why Telegram is used as more secure for illegal activities is that it does not cooperate with law enforcement well and has its HQ in Dubai. That does not prevent any hacks or leaks tho.
These "super-app" fantasies always ignore the fact that WeChat is ubiquitous in China because the Chinese government practically requires everyone to have it. How exactly is that supposed to be replicated in a non-authoritarian society?
You are not wrong, but I feel that the way that so many users have stayed active on Twitter despite all the controversies under Musk proves that a non-authoritarian audience can potentially sleepwalk itself into a super-app with a mixture of user complacency, shortsightedness, and unwillingness to deal with even a bit of inconvenience to support a competitor.
It's a really small chance, but I think that it is there.
I use and love Telegram. I use almost all of its features. All of its clients are open source. It has an incredible API for writing bots (which I also do). Their desktop Linux app is native! When I'm traveling I use Stories to share the experience with friends and family. I love the new topics to separate group discussions. It's the one app I've been able to onboard absolutely everyone to. I was never able to do the same when I tried to with Matrix and you only get so many chances before people stop moving.
Heavy user of telegram myself. It is by a country mile the slickest, leanest, most UI guideline-adhering, quickest app to use, on all of its platforms.
Sounds like a bunch of crap I don't want, and they're adding more crap according to this article. And if they are indeed going the way of WeChat, becoming a "super app" and partnering with Chinese and crypto companies, that makes me very nervous about privacy.
I use Telegram for the random chatter but it's getting bloated ever since they added premium features. I understand they have to make money, but some features like stories can't be disabled at all, and they're selling group names with crypto. Matrix is looking a lot better moving forward.
i've never understood why people like telegram, it's not some bastion of virtues, it's just a shit app like any other that realized that there's a market for the appearance of privacy.
It's a good chat app overall. You just have to treat it like sms and assume there's no real privacy.
Also, they're very generous with file transfer size. It makes shifting things between people so much easier.
In other words, it's the features rather than the supposed privacy. If I want privacy, there's way better options, same for security. But those options suck with some of the more useful things at times.
Mind you, if they keep going with this shit, it'll be so bloated that it'll cease to be a good pick for the stuff I use it for, but there are actually plenty of users that are hyped about the shit whatsapp is doing, and the same goes for telegram.
WhatsApp desktop isn't so bad nowadays, ever since they made it so you can use it without running through your phone. But I agree that Telegram's desktop client is much better.
My colleague likes it and use it all the time. He doesn't really care about privacy and he often brings up cool features telegram has, like simple photo/video editor, shrink tool for media, newsfeed, etc. Which all seems quite polished and very usable. If only it wasn't such a mess in its core.
Telegram, the popular messenger with 800 million monthly active users worldwide, is inching closer to adopting an ecosystem strategy that is reminiscent of WeChat’s super app approach.
To build out this super app platform, Telegram relies on a network of infrastructure partners both from the established tech world and the crypto space.
WeChat has pioneered the mini app model in China and now powers millions of them serving functions from payments, food delivery, e-commerce, ride-hailing, to driver’s license renewal, just to name a few.
The developers would also need to learn the programming languages of blockchain apps, which might actually be an easier barrier to overcome than the process of understanding the economic incentives that facilitate decentralized applications.
Importantly, payment functionality played a critical role in WeChat’s early rise as it instilled a habit among users to make daily transactions through the chat app.
It will be fascinating to witness what lessons Telegram and TON take from WeChat and how a mini app platform with a decentralized twist unfolds.
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