Kill Your Heroes
Kill Your Heroes
Kill Your Heroes
They forgot the first 400 years of nonstop racist and genocidal "heroes". Literally inspired the nazis.
You know the US isn't that old... Right?
The first US colony in America was established in 1607. Honestly, your comment is pedantry so I'm not exactly sure why I'm responding to such a valueless comment, but something rubs me the wrong way about casually pretending the "American" tag starts at 1776 or whatever and therefore minimizing the horrible actions of both our founders and the people who came before them.
The first settlers may not have been citizens of the USA but they were the first Americans to commit despicable acts against the natives, their eventual slaves, the women of their communities, and no doubt the LGBTQAI community. Just feels wrong to pedantically correct someone calling out the horrible shit we did prior to (and during) WW2.
What you inherit becomes your history. Even if you steal it.
Are viking invasion not part of British history because it wasn't called Britain yet?
Are you like 12?
Regional heroes often precede the countries they are celebrated in. Like, for example Stauffenberg precedes the current Germany.
Took on the Nazis
Didn't more Americans fight in the Pacific Theater? Weird how all these hagiographies don't start with "Killed 3M Japanese, mostly civilians".
killed 3m Japanese
The Japanese regime was up to worse shit than the German one, rhey just weren't doing it to white people.
mostly to civilians
So there was this city called Dresden...
I'm not necessarily defending anyone here; all three suck, but it feels like weird revisionism.
The Japanese regime was up to worse shit than the German one
The firebombing of Tokyo was as nightmarish a war crime as the London Blitz.
I’m not necessarily defending anyone here; all three suck, but it feels like weird revisionism
History is written by the victors. So there's always a justification for atrocity in the bylines when it comes time to explain your own campaigns of horror.
In another fifty years, I suspect the subject of the Gaza Genocide will be treated with the same backhanded accounting as the genocides in Kenya and Armenia, the Red Scares in America, and the White Terror in Taiwan.
Sucks to suck.
Who was worse Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan?
But killing civilians wasn’t taboo at the time and we can whataboutism Japan’s treatment of civilians.
As for your question, yes the US was inconsequential in the allies beating Germany (though it can argued they allowed the western Allies to meet the USSR in Germany) and was mostly in the Pacific theatre.
Who was worse Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan?
I mean, if we're talking genocidal regimes of the 20th century? Germany and Japan had a really late start compared to the Americans, the British, and the Dutch.
The Germans are primarily vilified for killing other Europeans. But King Leopold's Holocaust in the Congo Free States was nightmarish, killing as many as 13M local residents in pursuit of cheap rubber and lumber. Nevermind British massacres in India, Ireland, and Kenya.
However you slice it, the targets of these war machines are inevitably civilian. Either direct war on industrial centers to limit war time production or indirect siege of a city through embargo or attacks on transports and commercial shipping inevitably and intentionally murders the most vulnerable first and foremost.
But killing civilians wasn’t taboo at the time
Still isn't. All war is, at its heart, a civilian slaughter. The only real way to bring a population to heel is to terrorize them past the point of resistance. From the German conquest of Poland to the American firebombing of Tokyo, mass murder of civilians plays a central role in extorting surrender.
But killing civilians wasn’t taboo at the time
At the time?
An estimated over 940,000 people were killed by direct post-9/11 war violence in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan between 2001-2023. Of these, more than 432,000 were civilians. The number of people wounded or ill as a result of the conflicts is far higher, as is the number of civilians who died “indirectly,” as a result of wars’ destruction of economies, healthcare systems, infrastructure and the environment.
This is absolutely wrong, but the fascists violated the rules deliberately and repeatedly and created the modern concept of total war as an ideological demand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
The Geneva Conventions were established prior to the war. The versions we have now were updated post-war to reflect the changing demands but deliberate attacks on civilians were never allowable under them. As it happens the reason Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen is that they were military ports and so Americans claimed the whole cities were viable "military targets" though that's... Debated. It is an inevitable consequence of the concept of total war however.
Japan was invited to join them, agreed, and then broke them with glee. It sucks to suck but that's the kind of the war the fascists wanted.
And in the first panel only white people were "heroes" jsyk, the military was segregated. How many black men were awarded the medal of honor for wwii? Literally zero until 1997.
Ethnic minorities in the U.S. Armed Forces during World War II comprised about 13% of all military service members.
Since it is a single dude I think depicting them as a white dude is alright
I just cant think of the 'greatest' generation as anything other than white racists who weren't as evil as the guy in germany. Never think of any of them as heroes but just pieces of shit in America at the right time to stop hating black people long enough to maybe reduce their sentence in hell because they blew the brains out of some nazis.
Even the first one is highly debatable.
Took on the Nazis after accrueing 75% of the world's gold reserves selling weapons to allies and watching from afar. The advantage of not facing direct infrastructure loss and having scientists flocking to the US for safety also allowed for the development of the nuclear bomb.