POVERTY IS A FEATURE NOT A BUG

I don’t think anybody thinks that.

The world will never recover until poverty is seen not as a character flaw, but as a failure of society itself to provide for the most vulnerable.

I hate how when there is any picture of Soviet blocks it's always shot in autumn or winter when it's overcast. I live in an ex Soviet country and when these bad boys are maintained they can outperform new apartments, be it in functionality, amenities or price.

I'd gladly live in one of those apartments in the first picture if it meant that everyone could have a home

The USSR didn't do much good but those apartment buildings are definitely good. I used to live in a soviet apartment building and the funny thing about that was that every wall was a load bearing wall since all of them could hold up everything. They were thick as hell and fully concrete.

This is kinda like saying we need more farms to solve hunger.

The cost of housing is very detached from supply. For rentals, companies bought up housing and just jacked up the price, because renters are a semi captive client base.

New construction sometimes doesn’t even help, when developers knocks down an old affordable 12 unit apartment building and build a luxury 36 unit building, you’ve created -12 units of affordable housing.

Even for home buyers, they’re facing a major up hill battle going against existing home owners who have access to the capital of their current homes, and even worse corporate home buyers.

This isn’t to say supply isn’t an issue and we can ignore it, but we need to stop housing from just being an investment vehicle. Otherwise we’re just going to get garbage housing at prices no one can afford.

I don't think: "ah, buildings again. I'd rather live in camps featuring trash scent."

I understand the point. But France has done this and ended up with giant ghettos filled with si much crime that no emergency services whatsoever go there anymore.

In the US, they built giant housing projects like this where poverty was concentrated and the same thing happened. Crime installed itself in those projects and these neighbourhoods became dangerous ghettos.

Picture 1 is not the solution you think you want.

The condo building where I live is not so big. And it was built with 25% dedicated to social housing where poor families and underpaid workers can live comfortably in an apartment unit as big as my condo unit, which I paid nearly $400k CAD, for the price of about $650 CAD per month. This allows them to integrate with everyone else and live with everyone else and near where all the jobs are.

Don't worry, they've outlawed homelessness. Problem solved!

Capitalism has you thinking that these are our only options

I don't get people that have such a visceral reaction to apartments (the horror). What they write is frankly hilarious how they think. Right up there with what they write about transit (ohhh noooo) and electric stoves [sobbing noises].

never fails to amaze me how "progressive" types do a complete 180 as soon as someone mentions solving the homeless problem by giving them homes

edit: i rest my case

Yeah, but I didn't have to pay anything for those people to live in tents. I keep my money out of their lazy hands.

/s, deeply, if it isn't obv.

Pretty sure that’s just NIMBYs.

Whats with all the soviet propaganda in lemmy memes?

Literally to whom does this apply? Get in touch with reality.

Oh good, more edgy agenda posts

Who is this society guy? He sounds stupid

What is this trying to say???

Not sure why or from where this quote comes from. In germany and poland we have many such apartment houses that are very affordable

The presence of picture 1 in no way prevents the presence of picture 2.

As someone who lives in a former communist country, I can tell you that “commie blocks” most definitely don't fix homelessness.

Aren’t these basically the same picture? Like the second photo has a literal apartment building on the right of the background

What are you talking about dude? Those are homes with doors, locks, heat, and a bed. Compared to a tent?

No. The only bigger problem I have with the first image is permanence; the situation in the second picture is easier to clean up.

I really like russian appartement complexs, there is always green surrounding the buildings...I hate russia though

To be fair new social housing looks like this:

Not enough trees and first batch was mostly single-room(as in one bedroom, one kitchen, one toilet and one bathroom in appartment), but better than humant colony.

oh no you've been a victim of misinformation oh dear 🙄

Is this really even a meme? Just seems like some random slice of depression.

Right, well even though San Diego might have state park beach front property, we shouldn't have a tent city filling it up. This quickly becomes unhygienic, and crime rises, among other issues.

Honestly I'd take homeless any time of the year over the culture that is fostered in those Russian type block houses. It's far worse.

This more because of the local planning in a lot of western countries. Authoritarian countries force housing through much easier

this confused me

North Korea have more births than South Korea, having half of population. Capitalism is a demographic failure.

Totally true!

there's no worse/better they're both worse

More like "This doesn't exist, we're going to deal with it just one minute" 🤗