Reaching this point when?
Reaching this point when?
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/36357120
Reaching this point when?
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/36357120
We need a couple of major wars first ☹️
When communism is no longer demonized. (Star Trek is basically space communism.)
More like socialism, and even then there are a lot of asterisks.
The Federation has a credit system to buy luxuries. It’s a utopian democracy with socialist values and systems that have somehow withstood the test of time in away all current attempts at socialist programs in a democracy have not.
As far as credits go, my working theory is that the difference between credits and currency as we know it is that it'd be useless as an investment vehicle. You can use them to buy goods and services, but you can't buy a company.
How that works, exactly, is about as detailed as the Heisenberg Compensator.
Except the fact the federation is tolerant of other religious beliefs, cultures and political systems.
The Borg are far more communist than the federation.
give me Fully Automated Laser Space Gay Communism (so... DS9?) or give me tacos. i like tacos too.
According to Star Trek, we need to have a nuclear war first.
I do think it may happen. Seems like human societies only learn after a self-inflicted implosion. Religious tolerance only came after the destructive religious wars. Liberal values came after the French revolution and Napoleonic wars. Europe only became united and decolonisation occured after two world wars. Now, we are on the war between haves and have-nots. So, I think social equality will come after it becomes worse.
When those with empathy rule the world, and there are systems in place to stop the people without empathy from hurting others.
About 50 years ago.
But the capital class decided that billionaires were a better idea.
Greedy corporations have captured many regulatory bodies around the world. In the USA in particular, virtually all political decisions are made in support of corporate profits. In essence, we are heading the wrong direction at this point. In order to achieve the goal in this meme, we would need to somehow overcome those corporate influences and completely reverse the course we are on now. This would take decades at best and more than a few of them.
Sadly, the clock is running out on us and I very much doubt we have enough time remaining. Climate change and pollution levels are nearing tipping points will start us on a downhill race towards ecological disaster that will likely wipe out much of humanity. I give us maybe 20 years before the struggle for survival starts to overwhelm any other human motivations. If or when we come out the other side of that crisis, then perhaps the cultures that rise out of the chaos will be wiser than we are now.
The irony being that Picard says this in the movie First Contact, shortly before massacring a bunch of Borg with an old Earth machine gun out of spite because of his untreated PTSD.
i mean as soon as i can assure the needs of me and mine will be met, i'm there. and it doesn't mean i can't multitask on the way.
Needs are food, don't get too wet, too hot or too cold. Kind of like a mogwai. Avoid sick people, both in mind & body.
That's it. People did it before the fall of Rome, after the fall of Rome. Rome built roads that are still used.
Before that... long before; we lived in motherfucking caves and probably ate & fucked the closest species to death.
Not life.. humans; will find a way (to remain)
You're fine with your lunchables or whatever ;)
needs are also keeping internals internal and externals external.
Let them ruin the existing things. I'm interested in the new things. Knowledge workers getting around the predatory journal/publishing system. The US West coast states creating a new Healthcare recommendation authority. If anything is vulnerable to take over.. it should die. Diverse, messy systems are robust. Statistics was created to reinforce race "science". Gynecology was created to keep female slaves making babies. This stuff has to go in order to get to there, look for the new ways. Break existing ontologies if they suck.
When the basic necessities are taken care of for us, including food, housing, education, and medical care.
So...not in our lifetime. Final answer.