Would you rather world has no religuous extremism or no greed extremism anymore? - Lemmy.World
Would you rather world has no religuous extremism or no greed extremism anymore? - Lemmy.World
Greed as in people that abondon all morals for material and money.
If someone is both they will continue to live with only one of those.
Just curious what leftists target more.
I guess I'd choose greed, as not having that would quickly lead to a society with more equality and justice. That would have the positive side effect of reducing religious extremism as well, since that is often (but not always) the product of people living in desparate situations.
Greed (personal enrichment) is typically a reason a lot of religious leaders push hate so getting rid of greed gets rid of some (but not close to all) religious extremism.
That seems like the best choice as getting rid of religious extremism gets rid of some hate but still leaves us in the same greedy society
Greed hands down. Religious extremism is like psychosis or other mental illnesses. Greed is a much more dangerous beast and the absence of greed takes away a lot of religious extremism’s teeth. We also have more tools available to successfully combat religious extremism than greed. We’ve repeatedly seen collapses of religious extremists but rarely successful curbing of greed.
No greed for sure.
Shut down the greed, and the religious extremism will mysteriously fade away with it. Zealots are useful idiots for certain types of powerful bastard, and they are often led by scammers anyway. Churches that want to meddle in politics are easily corrupted.
How about just no extremism
I'm not a leftist, but greed. Much of the worst excesses of religion are caused by individuals seeking power, wealth, and influence through climbing the heirarchy of religious organizations. Without the greed motive, you knock out maybe a third of the problems of religious extremism, too.
"Religious extremism" as in "people take REALLY seriously what God considers and fear His judgment" would only be a positive thing, as it would create a self-policing community of righteous human beings. Now, I'm seeing it from a very Muslim perspective, which includes a degree of religious tolerance ("To you your system and to me is mine", 109:6) and a core of righteousness and correct behaviour before everything ("Piousness is not facing the West or the East, but pious is one who... gives money out of love to the relatives, the needy and the orphans... and those who keep their pledges, and are patient in the face of adversity and hardship.", 2:177). If you mean religious extremism in the "Deus Vult" crusade kinda way, or the "I gotta murder my daughter because she had sex before marriage" way, then yeah, the question starts making sense.
So, under that paradigm, since "religious extremism" basically means "I can do X because God wants me to", this one is more dangerous, because it allows for everything, greed included, to be rationalized.
Hello brother/sister. Religious extremism as in current western example.
So in your perspective imagine a muslim that walk up to the non-muslim cashier and start yelling about how eating octopus is Haram in their branch of Islam before calling police.
Except it's their church not branch and instead of eating octopus the cashier was wearing a rainbow t-shirt.
Hi hi hi! 👋 Would God condone me just going around harassing people when there's no blatant immorality/injustice taking place? Wouldn't that make me the c*nt in this scenario? Certainly, right? Even if you think something immoral but not blatant is taking place, all you can do is calmly and with humanity and kindness warn people against it. Even prophet Muhammad was "just a warner" (46:9) and "not responsible for people's guidance" (2:272), so who am I to pretend to fill larger shoes?
But yeah, religious extremism in the form that I explained is probably the more dangerous one, albeit the more common one is probably an excess in greed. Idk what the maths to determine the worse one are, but I know we gotta be wary of both. 🤷
“people take REALLY seriously what God considers and fear His judgment” would only be a positive thing
That would depend on the god I'd say and what people think that god says.
Yeah, and whilst a very intellectually competent and kind hearted person would understand and appreciate God's selfless creation and act accordingly independently, "there's one upright man among a thousand" (Ecclesiastes 7:28), so I recommend reading the Qur'an for guidance. From the Bible, I recommend the Sermon of the Mount to understand Jesus' message and conception of God and, ofc, Solomon's Ecclesiastes for the brave existentialists out there who don't always think in black and white, all or nothing ways. Most people should innately know right from wrong though, but the waters get muddy in the presence of propaganda and ideological corruption, and you can turn any sheep into a wolf to their fellow man.
I'll flip a coin.
A significant portion of religious extremism disguises greed extremism, so I'd get rid of greed extremism.