Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

The plot was interesting, the format was bad, I'll go with 5/10 for this one, so just an OK episode...

I get that they are doing a lot of "experiments" with this show, I don't think it was a successful one. Too much focus on nonsense.

I found the plot interesting enough to merit a full episode. The documentary distracted too much from that

I feel like there was a kernel of a good episode in there, or maybe kernels of several episodes. I'm not opposed to the documentary angle per se, and it fits in with SNW's general willingness to experiment, but I have a difficult time imagining that a documentarian would actually edit the finished product that way, on top of the other stuff. There's definitely room to critique Starfleet and the Federation, but this episode really feels like it was missing some important chunks.

I think the writers were too committed to the documentary format but since documentaries don’t switch their mind half way, they got the worst of all options. the format does not work and they lost the opportunity to use a good story and critique starfleet in an interesting way.

I really did not enjoy this one.

The "documentary" that ends up being made feels like the worst kind of propaganda that tries to feign a sense of "there's two sides to every argument", all while clearly pushing in favour of the agenda the documentary initially tried to critique anyway. It felt at moments like a military recruitment advertisement. I would not choose to watch such a documentary in real life, and watching it within a star trek episode just feels like I've wasted my time.

The writing makes use of the idea of military censorship and a film that jump cuts around to not so cleverly hide the fact that the writers are missing a plot. We are presented with a people in conflict, who abuse a creature to create a weapon. We have no other information about the conflict, beyond "there's mass casualties". No explanation of why starfleet is involved beyond "starfleet is here to help". No explanation why they chose to make that kind of weapon in particular. On the matter of the alien war we are left to fill the gaps ourselves entirely, and because our in-universe director is acting in the role of an unreliable narrator, we have no idea if any of what ended up in the film they ended up making can even be trusted. That FOIA disclaimer at the start could be just as real as those films that say "based on a true story" when they are anything but.

We did get some good character development, particularly with Ortegas finally being up front and open about what she's been through recently. But not really enough for it to feel like it matters. Ditto Uhura and Spock. Furthermore, despite self-harm and suicide being a central theme of the episode, other than an incredibly brief argument with the alien scientists about whether thier victim should be allowed to commit suicide, it's not really debated. The crew just accept that they need to do an assisted suicide, and that's that. Fair enough, if that's how human morals work centuries from now, but then it leads again to an episode without a useful plot. For contrast, multiple past star trek series have had their take on this topic and done a much better job.

After watching this I am left unsure what wider contribution this episode is meant to make to the series. For all the silliness of the comedy episodes, at least they were entertaining to watch and usually had at least one major plot development by the end. This one could have been cut from the season roster and nothing would have been lost.

Random assorted notes:

The decoded alien vocalisations kind of sounded like whalesong to me. Perfect opportunity for some cetecean ops, right? nope.
Beto is shown to be incredibly manipulative, especially with recording people who don't want to be recorded. Why on earth is he not in the brig?
Many times in the episode the direction attempts to foreshadow someone dying. I thought for a moment the writers were going to be brave and kill off someone in the crew. Particularly when chapel and spock are stretchered in with uhura standing there in shock. Nope, it's the random alien of the week instead.
The alien visuals, both the CG and prosthetics were very nice. I like the idea of a species that, like some animals on earth, begins life underwater and then metamorphoses into something that lives in a completely different environment out of water. That was possibly the only highlight of the episode for me.

Looking forward to the next one, it can't possibly be worse than this.

I feel like this could have been a great episode, if it wasn't a documentary and was just written as a normal episode. Most of the quirks of the documentary really distracted me and I felt like they got in the way a bit.
There's a tonne of icky ambiguity to this one...which is honestly what I like about it, though I totally get why it's not to everyone's liking.

Bold choice to have an in universe documentary made by an in universe bad/unprofessional documentarian. It makes the episode feel bad.

Also feels like 10 or so minutes were redacted considering the short length.

"Documentarian with an agenda" is a real type of documentarian - maybe the majority.
His biggest sin was probably making a doc that was secretly about himself...

Too much docudrama for my taste, I really enjoyed Uhura and how she sees trough Beto.

The ending was emotive, and that for me was the best part, people are in Starfleet, they have their reasons, but the main one is that the like the Federation and they fight to preserve it, even die if needed.

After being underwhelmed last week, I enjoyed this one a lot.

I appreciated Beto cutting straight to the unspoken conflict at the heart of this franchise - Star Trek is kind of colonialist/imperialist.

When they got to the conclusion, my initial reaction is that "the people are the difference" was sort of trite...but what else is there, really? These are people who are willing to put their morality first, even as they walk an uneasy line.

I think exploring the idea of the Federation as an imperialist power is interesting, but done very poorly here. Thinking back to DS9 and how it dealt with moral questions. Beto is such a random character, exploring this from his perspective feels so meaningless.
My partner and I really liked this one.
We both think it’s in the top rank of Star Trek episodes. In my view it may be the best of SNW to date.
It definitely should be the ‘For Your Consideration’ episode of this season.
The direction was excellent. This was one of the best dramatic performances from Mount as Pike since season two of Discovery.
My sense is that some viewers were mistaking the C-plot about the warring groups, for the A-plot about the Enterprise officers response to the ethical choice between orders and the free will of a sentient being or the B-plot about the making of the documentary.
I can’t agree that the episode was too short. The best Trek episodes are tightly rendered and leave lots of room for thought after.
- The part about the officers' ethical decision should have been the A-plot, but the episode basically forced the documentary angle on us as the A-plot. I think that's the fundamental problem; if this had just been an episode about them wrestling with the ethical ramifications of using a sentient creature as a weapon, it would have been top-tier Star Trek.

Annotations for 3x09 up at: https://startrek.website/post/27912143