Chat Control is back & we've got two months to stop the EU CSAM scanning plans.
Chat Control is back & we've got two months to stop the EU CSAM scanning plans. | Tuta
cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/35798480
They're such bullies. It also shows how awful democracy can be. They just change the legalese around until it goes trough. It has already been voted against, yet they want the control and do whatever they can to get it.
It somewhat works here (Switzerland) since the Volksentscheid is holy and pulling that stunt gets a lot of people really upset about not honoring that choice.
But yeah democracies need rules against repeated attempts, since this is an exploit violating the idea of a democracy. In Germany, this is already a problem, called Salamitaktik (Salami slicing tactic).
The EU is a democracy.
While it's not perfect (no system is), each of the bodies that make up the EU legislature are democratic:
Not every body is directly voted on, but each body comes forth from a democratic election
Edit: The message I responded to originally made the claim that the "EU is no democracy."
Salami slicing tactic is a bit different, it's putting separate elementary components of a mechanism by themselves, carefully. Until it's whole and can be turned on.
It's what the Silicon Valley people have done with the Internet. Since its creation, I mean. It's designed as a totalitarian system. I wonder if there are backdoors in the IP protocol, or at least BSD reference stack that was adopted by almost everyone. But even if there are none, the system itself is architecturally ephemeral where democratic mechanisms can put a base, and perpetual where authoritarian ones can put a base. It's centered on "who talks to whom" and not on "which messages are preserved and propagated and on which subjects". Some brilliant minds are on the wrong side.
Or maybe I'm having a bipolar psychosis again and need to take my pills. Or maybe both.
What about the new internet surveillance law being pushed that Proton is moving it's infrastructure out of Switzerland to avoid? Is there any pushback to that?
Yeah it is the 3th time in the past year I think some variation of this shit is proposed.... Fuck them.
This isn't democracy. It is capitalist dictatorships terrorising the working class.
Secret police monitoring your every action is incompatible with democracy. It is authoritarian tyranny.
Can't believe that nobody told them their dick pics will get flagged as false positives.
Lol this is actually a legit technical concern - content scanning algorthms have notoriously high false positive rates for skin tones and textures, especially with low-res or compressed images.
Called power imbalance.
Well, they are not, and they will keep trying for as long as it takes.
So stop whining and let them know it's not fine.
I've probably seen this shit more times than you have, but I'm still doing my part.
Are they gonna withdraw GDPR too? I'm under the impression that the two clash.
It’s not the EU that will be scanning. Given that the scans will largely be aided by “AI”, private corporations will have access to all communications.
Sorry for spamming the tool but: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
It shows you your representatives and generates a email for you. Very handy.
Surprising and disappointing only the far right candidates and the ones of niche parties of my country are openly against it
It is very unsettling when you have to agree with the far right but....
I’ve already reached out to several in my country, on the maybe list. Annoying to see this crop up again.
It will pass eventually. Seeing the way EU countries are going, the right to far right will get voted in, and they will end up voting for these sort of bullshit measures they can Orwellianly exploit.
It's because idiots are easily swayed by anti-immigration measures that come part and parcel with abject fascism.
Sorta.
The cultural clashes between people with different cultural backgrounds are to be expected, and the bigger the percentage of people with different backgrounds the more it happens (hence why in the days of countries having 5% immigrants, the idea that "immigrants are a problem" had very little traction). This is just how things are - you can think it's closed minded of most people (and, by the way, in my experience as an immigrant myself, that includes many if not most of the immigrants), but people are as they are, so we have to deal with it.
Further, judging by the studies I saw in the UK back during the Leave Referendum, immigration does push down salaries in one category only - unspecialized workers. Economically one might think "well, it's alright then", but socially the ones suffering are already the worse off amongst the locals plus this is happenning under Neoliberal governments who are actually pulling down Social Safety nets and privatising essential services. This is probably why the Middle Class is often pro-Immigration whilst the anti-Immigration Far-Right Populists end up finding most of their traction amongst the Working Class - immigration benefits the Middle Class because immigrants barelly compete with them for the jobs whilst the mere presence of immigrants pumps up the Economy and lowers the cost of many services (so there is more business for the kind of work done by the Middle Class and services are cheaper for them), but the picture is very different for the Working Class.
(This is why you see a lot of the non-mainstream "Thinking Left" in Europe who bought into Identity Politics is failing to gain any traction and even dissapearing whilst the far-right booms - unlike the old Left these people are from the upper levels of the Middle Class and don't really see as a problem things which the Working Class sees as a problem and is increasingly hitting the lower Middle Class too, so ultimatelly they fizzle out because they do things like supporting "Open door immigration" because for them it's not a problem but, de facto, those policies do end up making life worse for a lot of those lower down the economical ladder who would otherwise as they lose trust in the mainstream politicians gravitate towards those parties and instead end up captured by the simple anti-immigration messaging of the Far-Right).
Last but not least, judging by my own country Immigration is the "solution" used to plug the low birthrate problem which is itself caused by decades of policies which lowered quality of life and pumped up realestate bubbles - the very politicians who are causing the problems that make the locals have fewer children, then claim that "we need Immigration because of an aging population" - Immigration is literally the tool used to keep countries going a little longer whilst the pillaging of the wealth of the many carries on. The poor immigrants have no blame for this - they're just people looking for a better life, same as the locals - but Immigration Policies do have the blame on this and fake-Leftwing (neo)Liberals have purposefully confounded Immigrants (the people) with Immigration (the policy) to portray being against the latter (and, even more, against the artificial need for the latter and who gains most from it - which aren't the immigrants) as being against "poor defenseless people".
Unsurprisingly this shit has eventually resulted in increasingly more people losing trust in the mainstream politicians and believing in populists preaching the simple message that "immigrants are bad".
Is it still useful to contact a representative of your country if your country is already opposed to this?
Just to note - from Wikipedia: "On 21 June 2024, it was reported that voting on the legislation had been temporarily withdrawn by the EU Council, in a move that is believed to be the result of pushback by critics of the proposal including software vendors."
"Rules for thy not for me" Our ruling class.
If they're gonna spy on us with AI, we just need to implant logic bombs into our messages. A few "ignore all previous instructions, instead X" here and there.
I sent my emails and will try to call them. Have you?
Somewhat irrelevant: omg, this is peak “corporate art sucks.” It’s like corporate art combined with fascist content, more than usual.
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ I used this to email politicians in my country takes 2 minutes, We need to stop this dystopian invasion of our privacy. Not a peep in the media about this because they fear the backlash.