Anyone else noticing engagement and post quality issues?
This is just my basic perspective as a daily user since June 9th.
I was able to use just my subscribed communities feed up until a couple of weeks ago. I subscribed to a lot in the first 2 weeks of this thing exploding. Those initial communities are very engaging, but several have slowed down or are dead. I expected that. I've been using the "All" feed to try to engage with people and find new stuff. I've used it a lot, but there is a lack of engagement. I use the "new" sort priority to try to find active participants, but it seems lacking as viewed from .world. I have other instance made accounts, but I have not seen any differences. Anyone have suggestions about finding better engagement with positive people?
I use the “new” sort priority to try to find active participants
New is going to show you the posts with the least engagement... Seriously, that's literally the worst way to go about what you're looking for
Because it's post that literally just got made. This isn't reddit where 10,000 people are online at once and things take off quickly. Browse by "active" and you'll see the posts people are engaging on.
I have also noticed a drop in engagement these past couple of weeks. I think there are many reasons why this is happening, just a few of which include:
Way too many memes and meme-centric communities; I've had to block so many communities the past few weeks just to declutter the All feed and to find posts that warranted actual discussion; it starts to feel like 4chan after a while
Too many communities and not enough users; there was an attempt to mirror reddit during the exodus, and there just isn't enough of a userbase to justify so many communities; many of these shell communities are aggregating dozens of off-lemmy links everyday without a user base to engage with, so it just spams the All feed and makes it look like a ghost town
Many users have likely gone back to reddit or found alternative platforms
My own engagement has slowed, as I just don't even know if users from other instances are seeing my comments or posts. Lemmy's federation system broke shortly after the explosive growth and as far as I can tell it hasn't been fixed. Subscriber counts vary greatly, depending on which instance you view a community from. Some folks see your post, and some don't. That's a nonstarter for a lot of users who might otherwise engage.
Yeah, things have definitely dropped off. I'm still getting engagement on my cat posts but most of my feed has been news with no comments and tons of memes. I'm hoping things will pick back up as we head into fall and winter. Just wanted to let you know I saw your comment from my instance :)
Hah, thanks I appreciate it! Re-reading my post, it sounds pretty glum, but that wasn't really my intention. I fully appreciate that Lemmy is still in alpha development, and I didn't have great expectations that it could compete with reddit in its current form.
And I don't mind the smaller communities, nor my own diminished usage. Since breaking away from Reddit, I find myself spending more time exploring the small web, rediscovering niche blogs, working on websites within my own circle, and generally just enjoying the break from doomscrolling and getting overwhelmed with the lack of humanity displayed in that worldview.
I browse by new to help start the conversation (one comment is enough to get people to click it), but it’s not a good way to find it actively happening.
If you sort by top of the last 1 or 6 hours you’ll probably have better results. Those are still pretty new but much more active conversation wise.
I dunno how to hotlink, but if you scroll to the active users graph at https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy you can see there's been like a 25% dropoff in active users since the peak in July. Lemmy has still grown 50x since May, and it's much MUCH more active than it was then. But we've definitely crested a peak and not everyone who gave Lemmy a shot then is sticking around in a monthly basis.
This isn't necessarily bad. Lemmy is still young and has many rough edges, it wasn't realistic to win all the users that tried it on ease-of-use in a head to head with reddit. And Mastodon has had multiple growth waves interspersed with periods of declining usage, but with the spikes has grown ie remained stable overall. Early-stage commercial social media have big ups and downs in engagement and growth as well, and just like lemmy those ups and downs are often externally driven... when competitors mess up, when a big global news story hits, when a major sporting event happens... these can all be catalysts for one-time growth. It's not a straight line.
Time will tell what user level we stabilize at in the short-term and what events spur new growth, but it's normal to have a big expansion be followed by some degree of contraction.