Its a US tradition
Its a US tradition
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Well, when you put it like that, I guess Trump does deserve to go on Mount Rushmore.
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That's a hell of a concession.
The entire idea of Mount Rushmore really is contrary to the spirit of America. We have presidents, not kings. It's said that if George Washington wanted to stay in power, he could have easily done so and basically become a king. His contemporary critics were afraid he'd do exactly that.
But Washington knew that we didn't need kings, and he started the tradition of presidents retiring after two terms. I suspect he'd look at Mount Rushmore and be offended at the idea of treating presidents like that.
Anyways, rather than adding somebody new, we should just knock all of the existing portraits off, and admit it was always in poor taste.
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(Indigenous holy site)
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Right, like I think people forget that we did this to a native American holy site/cliff. Intentionally. Because we really are the fucking worst.
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This would be more impactful if it compared these people to others of their time. Just how awful were they compared to everyone else? Christopher Columbus, for example, was a piece of shit even compared to others in his own time.
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Lets also not forget that Thomas Jefferson was a real piece of work, even by the low standards of the US revolutionary elite: • Raped his slaves, then enslaved kids that resulted from those rapes • Tied to the above: actually managed to horrify french aristocrats. In one case when they noticed one of his slaves was clearly his kid. (Note that they had to get special permission to have slaves in the embassy in France) • Was Trump-levels of eager when it came to invading and conquering Canada before the war of 1812 and was a major player in starting that war.
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Let me add just how awful the park is. You have to drive there obviously, and the approach is laden with kitschy cowboy and old west themed tourist traps and overpriced hotels. Then you pay $20 for a parking space and get to gaze at the thing from a mile away. Exit through the gift shop where you can buy a plastic replica made in Shenzhen. Quintessentially American.
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If you think US is only country that has a dark history. I hate to break it to you bud. Shit even the worst of US history doesn’t touch some current countries crimes.
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Whataboutism: not just for tankies!
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People in Spain are not proud about their history in America. It's recognized as brutal and shameful conquest, not some great adventure like in US.
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In fairness to Lincoln, the military wanted to execute 303 men, but Lincoln would only allow death sentences for those involved in rapes or massacres of civilians.
This reminds me of the problems people have when selecting sports stars as GOATs. Are you taking them out of context and comparing them to today's best athletes, or are you leaving them in context and seeing how much better they are than the others of their time?