Trump Says He’s Moving Forward With Ending Birthright Citizenship After Supreme Court Gives OK

First ones to be deported should be melania and baron

Wouldn't it be simpler if he just ended citizenship? Then he could freely oppress just about anyone.

From what I understand, its not the supreme court ok'd his move rather they stopped other lower federal courts from creating injunctions that stop the entire process, and they now limited them to stopping only those who bring forth lawsuits and who are affected by whatever it is.

Looking into it this whole thing is way more complicated than the headline makes it sound. The Supreme Court didn't actually give Trump permission to end birthright citizenship, they just made a ruling about how courts can block federal policies nationwide.

Basically what happened: Trump's birthright citizenship order has been blocked by multiple federal judges who said it's probably unconstitutional. Instead of arguing the constitutional issue (which he'd probably lose), Trump's team asked the Supreme Court to limit judges' power to issue nationwide blocks on policies. The Court agreed 6-3, but they specifically did NOT rule on whether ending birthright citizenship is legal.

So now Trump's celebrating like he won, but really all that changed is the procedural stuff. The constitutional problems with his order are still there: the 14th Amendment is pretty clear about birthright citizenship. Lower courts still have to reconsider their rulings, and immigrant rights groups are already filing new lawsuits.

It's more of a tactical win for Trump that might let him try to implement parts of his agenda in some places, but the fundamental legal challenges haven't gone away. The Truthout article is at least a little hyperbolic imo.

If you end birthright citizenship, then nobody gets to be a citizen by birth. If you can't be a citizen by birth, the only way to become a citizen is naturalization. If the only citizens are naturalized people, the country is 100% immigrants.

Question : didn't the supreme court just say that lower level judges can't block him? Which would mean that appeal judges can? So this question is far from settled?

So... He's goin to deport Baron Trump then, right?

It's still a right embedded in the constitution. The supreme court didn't say he could do it....but the orange Cheetos in chief probably thinks they did because his mother gave birth to him at the top of a ladder

He is much closer to his stated goal

The power to deport any natural Born Citizen on demand for no reason at all

He has stated he wants.... Needs this

On Exactly why he has been vague

On unrelated news, what would happen if people stopped paying federal taxes?

I.e., if all of california, or blue states in general, stopped paying federal taxes simultaneously, what would realistically be the outcome?

How would it affect the US? How would it affect the states?

And: Is there a proper place to discuss ideas such as this one?

My (very rough) understanding is that people pay income taxes to the federal tax agency directly. From there, the central US government sends parts of it back to the states, to do things with it such as public services.

Blue states are more economically heavy than red states. They pay in more than they get out. If they stop paying taxes, the US suffers but they get to keep a larger share to themselves? My understanding is very rough, it's just a rough idea.

It could weaken Trump's government?

Wait ... Doesn't "citizenship" mean where you're born?

It's either where you're born or where you live. Which is it?

Wtf even is citizenship then?

"I'm from Ireland" is synonymous with "I'm Irish"... Right?

So if you're born in America, wouldn't you... Be American?

If he takes that away, you aren't just magically from nowhere, you're still American.

This is stupid and makes no sense, it's all just classism and racism. I hate everything.

At what point does everyone say "if he's not following the law, then neither should we"?

This is the final nail in the coffin of the Constitution. As a lawyer for the federal government, I need everyone to know that this officially marks the end of United States rule of law. Protect yourselves, and godspeed.

So literally what happened here is Trump said, "I want to violate the Constitution" and the Supreme Court said, " Okay — go ahead."

And that's it for the rule of law in the US.

All that's left now is to tally the mass murders along the way to the inevitable collapse of the US, and to hope that our descendents can build something better out of the rubble.

Lest we forget:

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Pretty hard to argue that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside” doesn’t mean what it clearly states. It’s not even in legalese. The fact that this wasn’t laughed out of court says everything.

This is fucking Stephen Miller's Nazi wet dream

As much as I dislike the decision, they did not give the “ok”

The ruling was about how the lower courts handle injunctions. The court cases are playing out still.

I still hate the decision.

Can Trump prove his citizenship, if this policy goes through?

I'm curious if this means that certain cities or states will become citizenship havens because their local courts decided to provide injunctions for their jurisdiction.

I’d like to pay a reporter to ask Trump how it feels to wipe his ass with the Constitution. I’d think it would be coarse and unpleasant, but he keeps doing it.

Ill just stick with Charmin or whatever.

this is insane

The supreme court did not give the OK. They said that you have to sue individually or as a class action and kicked it back down to the lower court. And several orgs are currently petitioning for class action status.

Edit: they also said courts can't issue nationwide injunctions, they have to be narrower.

On his first day back in office, Trump signed an executive order federal agencies to refuse to recognize the citizenship of children born in the United States who do not have at least one parent who is an American citizen or lawful permanent resident, also called a "green card" holder.

So is this retroactive? Do states that are not challenging take effect in 30 days? Who the fuck knows. Make sure to do jack shit to stop all of this.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-may-rule-allowing-enforcement-trump-birthright-citizenship-2025-06-27/