rule away Rowling

What did Gaiman do?

I'm so disappointed in Rowling. I loved Harry Potter and would've loved that videogame.

Publishing opinions you disagree with - no matter how bad these opinions are - is categorically different from committing an actual crime.

rowling is a transphobe, but gaiman is like weinstein a sex pest. she played it carefully for decades before coming out, when she had built a large amount of fans and support, much like lewis CK, the cancelling dint end his career so to speak, he moved all online before it got worst.

also transphobia has massive support from right wingers.

If anyone is looking for some good fucking amazing books by an awesome and genuinely fun and good natured dude, check out Jason Pargin, he is awesome and not problematic and his books are all bangers, and he also enabled and actively supports the careers of many other super awesome and creative people. Also, listen to Bigfeets.

Doesn't season 2 of the sandman come out in a couple weeks? Doesnt really seem like he's being boycotted.

Maybe not the most popular idea here, but I think there are a lot less Rowling fans, and a lot more Harry Potter fans. After all she didn't really write anything noteworthy after the Harry Potter books. And the HP themed stuff like Cursed Child and Fantastic Beasts she did after the main series is let's call it controversial, she's a one hit wonder. Gaiman wrote a lot more and had a lot more different main characters in different settings, as far as I know, I didn't read anything of his stuff.

Notice how a lot of folks aren't aware of the disgusting things Gaiman did, specifically BECAUSE he went quiet. Rowling doesn't want to go quiet because she's a crusader: discriminating against trans people is a goal for her.

There's just so much entertainment and incredible creativity out there. I genuinely don't understand allegiances like this.

I love Sandman but tbh fuck that dude and I'll go read one of other million alternative stories that often are just as good if not better.

The competition in creative industry is just insane and switching is basically free compared to any other industry. Like, good luck switching from John Deere if you're a farmer but Harry Potter fans have zero barriers and still can't do it. Spineless, weak people.

People got into Gaiman at an older age than they got into HP. So HP is more deeply ingrained

I mean, I still love American Gods, Good omens and Neverwhere. I just stopped recommending them to people.

hp was a big part of my pre transition life when i was in the closet. i hate jk so i dont buy new things but i still do reread my existing books. leaky, pottercast, and starkid were the first places i fit in.

but i dont actively seek out pro rowling hp fandom tho. fuck rowling.

Supporting Gaiman is supporting a rapist; it will negatively impact a couple people directly.

Supporting Rowling is much worse.

Sort of off topic. I think learning new things about an author can make re-reading their works interesting.

didn't i just see any new sandman season announced though?

I feel like we have to be able to separate artists' bad behavior from our evaluation of the quality of their work.

Maybe there's a time limit? Maybe they have to be dead so they can't benefit from their work being sold.

Are there any non problematic artists/creators from 500 years ago who we nevertheless find their work product valuable to society today? What about science? Especially medicine with all the body snatching.

Neil Gaiman is almost certainly a sex pest based on all the women reporting. So I get not wanting to give him money. He hopefully gets it, too.

I like the suggestion of piracy as an approach...

Harry Potter is so ubiquitous that most people who consume it do so without really knowing much about the author beyond their name and then there's a decent chunk that don't care because it doesn't affect them and they think it's culture war stuff that doesn't matter.

Making people care about things that don't directly affect them is always the hardest task.

Am I going to get rid of his works that I own? No, probably not. I love them. Which is why it sucks so much to never recommend them again, but that's the reality.

some googling later

Well, shit. Glad I buy secondhand books at every opportunity, otherwise I would have given money to a human sized pile of shit.

I’d only heard about Gaiman on tumblr, and they’re fairly socially conscious over there. Frankly, I’d be surprised if he had any staying power with the crowd that previously endorsed him.

“Sexually assault your fans” wouldn’t sit well with anyone, whereas “women aren’t real women” comes out of left field.

Thing is Gaiman pissed off all feminists with the SA allegations so of course he has disappeared from the online world because the cross over between Neil Gaiman readers and SA-appologists is very small.

Whereas a sect of the feminists support her gatekeeping opinion that the only thing that can describe if you're a woman is being born with a cunt. This one very vocal audience is not unified.

On top of that Rowling is more mainstream than Gaiman is and the general public is more willing to ignore the mudslinging world of gender politics and not get involved if it means more content from a popular mediocre scribe.

You see, the difference is... Supporting Gaiman makes you seem like a rape enabler.... And anything related to rape is bad.

You want to discriminate against gay/trans/black/brown people? It might be distasteful, but it's not universally considered bad. There's lots of people out there willing to vote a Nazi into the white house and cheer him on as he breaks the law to deport anyone and everyone he wants to just because they're "not from here" (or they think they're "not from here").

See, they're not the same thing.

The Sandman books were a massive part of my teenage years, one thing my sister and I agreed on back then and a source of endless conversation with my crush. Really gutted that I can't look forward to introducing my teenagers to them.

I'm out of the loop. What happened with Neil Gaiman?

The worst of us ruin it for everyone else. It's just like how everyone reasonable hates microtransactions in gaming, but enough unreasonable people love them that microtransactions are still more profitable than traditional income streams so they're shoved into every game.

Reasonable people didn't want to pay for the deeply mediocre Hogwarts Legacy, but enough dumb motherfuckers ruined it for the rest of us by making it one of the most popular games the year it released.

Note: I only know it's deeply mediocre because I pirated it so I could critique how bad of a fucking game it is without putting money into JK Rowlings pockets. Seriously, I do no understand the love for that fucking game, it's narratively and gameplay-wise a pile of shit for real.

Jfc I missed this one. Is it bc we glorify them? Or do they get where they are bc they're always like this deep down?

I was picking out books for my daughter at the library and saw a Neil Gaiman children’s book, I perked up then remembered he’s a piece of shit and kept on browsing.

i pity anyone who was named after a Neil gaiman character, like caroline

He isn't entirely gone, the second season of The Sandman is about to release on Netflix in a few weeks...

not up to date.. what’s the haps with gaiman?

Fuck these fuckers. Also thanks for their contribution to our culture. But again: fuck them