I joined, hoping that it is way less censored than reddit. Is that the case? Nowadays you can’t say shit in the “social platforms” if it hurts someone. I want to be able to say what In think and read what others have to say even if it hurts my feelings / views.
I want to be able to say what In think and read what others have to say even if it hurts my feelings / views.
I promise you, after two days moderating an actual large discussion forum, you will implement sweeping rules about who can say what about who. The only places people enjoy chatting anymore are places that are moderated.
We can complain about youtube and facebook taking down messages critical of power or corporations, but places like Lemmy are managed by people. It's not censorship, it's going into someone's house and abiding by their rules. It's a whole other topic if what you want to read/say is popular enough that you can find someone's "house" that centers around that topic and is also large enough to have meaningful interactions.
And if you're looking for debate, that shit is dead.
The fact that every community is now insular and bubbled echo-chambers is a result of human tendencies, we gave people total freedom on the internet and instead of using it to learn more and include more people in more conversations, our instincts turned the place into a curdled honeycomb of walled-off communities which were ripe for the plucking by corporate interests.
That’s very unfortunate. I deleted my Facebook account a decade ago because it was flooding me with superficial stuff from people that i didn’t care about. I stopped using Twitter as soon as Musk bought it, it was shit before that too. Deleted Reddit a couple of days ago because it is impossible to say anything that the moderators disapprove of. Maybe lemmy will be the next thing to delete
From what I’ve experienced, it feels toxic in a bizarre liberal, Linux-nerd white knight kindof way. Which I think almost wraps back around to not being toxic at all and just feeling friendly in a passive aggressive way? Like going to a computer convention held on a hot, sunny beach. Sure, every here mostly agrees and likes the same geeky stuff but we can easily be too cranky about it, one way or another.
Lemmy seems way more likely to engage in real conversation in comments and not just one-line jokes than Reddit. People seem more passionate about their hobbies or viewpoints. More likely to help if asked directly and detailed in response. It’s a cool place!
Fairly different hivemind here, I think. Still annoying at times but for different reasons. Individuals seem more likely to engage on a topic though. Maybe without instantly thinking you're their enemy.
If you read the user agreement when you signed up, you would know that you’re not supposed to poop for 3 days after signing up. You shouldn’t be posting until you complete the challenge.
Similar but distinct. Much further left for one thing.
Also, the average level of tech knowledge here is off the charts. Like I feel like a caveman and in my office I'm the one people to go through for help. Never felt like that on Reddit.
Systematically the same. Different weight shift (views and interests). Smaller userbase also makes it a bit different, but will become more similar with more users.
No ads, no tracking, that's exclusive to Lemmy and I would like it for that alone.
People (aka, in Reddit language, 'content' or 'the stuff we write but they earn money with') are the same everywhere, I mean assholes and nice guys are not exclusive to any platform. There are just a lot less of us here than on Reddit. So, there is a lot less noise.
Plus we have decent filtering tools, so we can even have less noise ;)
Lemmy is tiny compared to Reddit and the niche communities I'm interested in are not very active but I don't care. I will keep posting here and not on Reddit as long as they won't change what I disagree with (which won't happen).
Lemmy tends to not take every sentence like an insult.
for example: On a r/PCMR post asking about GPU shopping I said "ive run pretty graphics intensive games and some LLM/Image generators too. Mine has been perfect, I don't think OP should be super concerned [about only 10gb vram]"
I got -20 votes and a reply "Wow you should tell to AI companies that they don't need 30gb in their graphics cards!"
like OP was literally just a gamer 😭
although,
Lemmy HATES memes with censors in it. And leftist infighting is insufferable.
Lemmy is how Reddit was in 2010. Size is what degrades the experience, the larger Reddit got the more shit it became. I am hopeful that federation will be the secret sauce that saves Lemmy from the same enshittification as it grows.
Less alt right stuff here on Lemmy than there was back in 2010, though. Early Reddit was full of libertarian ideals and free speech absolutists, before the consequences of those positions became apparent in the later half of that decade.
It was around Trump's first presidency that half of Reddit realized the other half of Reddit wasn't just memeing, the alt right went to their safe spaces, and Reddit began purging itself of all that was not marketable (good and bad).
I think it's plausible that there are more people here that are neurodivergent. However, even more significant than this is a culture where neurodivergent people are more visible. At Reddit, calling someone or something autistic would usually be an insult. Here, it's more often that we are recognising each other and existing in solidarity.
I actually think it's way more like 4chan than reddit.
Niche threads are small handful of people every time, people feel pretty safe to get nasty really quick, and wild mix of people thinking it's their safe space full of people that agree with them entirely from anarchists to fascists.
Also likely to see a random porn or furry post.
That's an interesting question and one that's worth exploring. Reddit certainly has been the source of many homegrown memes, common retorts, and witticisms used across the web. But here, you can try switching to Linux. Download various distros for free and try out combinations of release cycle, built-in apps, and desktop environment to find your favorite.
Yes, as much as I dislike the increasingly moralist culture on there, it still has a bunch of great contributions, if you care to sift through the awful interface. Sadly it's got achievements now, which in my experience were so far confined to games. It's not something I want popping in a corner of my monitor completely unprompted while I am trying to focus on an insightful comment. Not the kind of thing you get with free software... my last experience with Linux was Fedora 20-something, one which I aim to reiterate now, fifteen years later, that Wayland has improved to the point of letting me use my hardware to its full potential (drawing tablet, multiple monitors, etc). I've already installed Mint on my wife's laptop, which she enjoys very much (because it gets out of her way), and I think I might go for Fedora again for my workstation later this year, or maybe Manjaro, who knows.
I didn't use Reddit towards the end so I might be a bit wrong but overall it feels a lot more likely that you will bump into the same people on here. Its nice that you don't really get your karma farming GallowBoob types.
The misogyny on here seems more intense though even if the mods and admins are more on top of it.
Most of it tends to be where a woman will mention experiencing something disproportionately, as a woman, and there will always be a man in the replies saying that men experience it to.
There is a recurring thing on poor consent towards women's bodies too, particularly whenever SWers are mentioned. That's more of a carry over from Reddit though.
It grew up learning some good habits and some bad, it continues traditions it didn't start, but it runs it's own household with it's own traditions, and is building upon the values it's learned.
Generally the same culture, but skewed towards more tech savvy types and online-centric culture groups. It's a lot smaller than reddit, which helps a lot with the quality of interactions, but I think if it grew enough it would end up very close to reddit culture.
Yes and no. To me it feels like going from one subreddit to another. It is different? Yes. That much different? I don't know, maybe, like going from a big city to a town without leaving the country.
It's growing one. The dislike of bots and one-liner posts seems like it could actually stick around as a form of etiquette, although it's too early to really say. A lot of readers will remember the poop post a couple years on, too, which counts.
The political bent and heavy tech-orientation are just a reflection of who the early adopters (and devs) are. Ditto for any extra civility or insight on the part of the people posting.
I feel like Ask Reddit is at fault for that one. They changed their rules to have the entire question fit in the title. Before that, you were allowed to have the question expanded upon in the post.
Not sure if you remember/were around for it, but I think this was in a response to AskReddit titles being a story followed by a question instead of just a question.
E.g. dear reddit, today my dog killed my flowers. What's a time you were emotionally devastated?
Don't see why you couldn't have limited to a question in the title and allowed story time in the post though
I've seen less whining about downvotes, "you can't say x on y subreddit" meta comments, and general persecution fetish stuff. Probably just due to less people, but it's still a relief not to have to see it constantly.
Significantly different in most communities. Much more collab work for one. Plus faster changes in general. Hard to game an algorithm when everyone has a different one and in different places. The people are just nicer here. I feel like I can actually have a conversation without being drowned.
I was going to say "bit of both", but I realise this is complicated by how long I was on Reddit; the culture and experience over there changed over time. I wonder whether the parts of Lemmy that remind me of Reddit are invoking my earlier experiences