Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County

OK, next question: Let's say we do a 'recount' at this hour, assuming the evidence isn't already lost, what then?

Think he's going to go, ohh my bad?

Think he's going to leave willingly?

Think the court case will even be appropriately handled once it goes to the SCOTUS.

Think the SCOTUS will even hear it?

How is it 100 days later, we just now hear about this?

So wait a minute here guys, you're telling me that the man who was convicted by a unanimous jury of fraud (cheating) in the 2016 election, the same guy who called the governors of various states and asked them to 'find him some votes' in 2020, did not run a clean honest campaign in 2024???

Get the EFF out of here!!

This is why manual hand counted votes still happen to this day in Canada and Australia. They both faced the same MAGA threat and the lib won.

Yes it takes longer. And sometimes results will take weeks to resolve but at least they don’t end up in a situation like this where the entire system is so corrupt 4 months later it’s near impossible to fix it.

always thought it suspicious there was soooo many reds when the final count was in.

To paraphrase Bush v Gore over negative votes in Florida after the SC sent the case to a lower court and it was appealed back to them

it’s been so long since the election that it would be unfair to change the outcome now

After HitlerPig's 2025 State of the Union speech, new Democratic senator Elissa Slotkin gave the Democratic response, and tried to sell the idea that millions of people in her state voted for her for Senator, but Trump for president.

This past weekend, Amy Klobuchar tried to sell that same fantasy on Meet The Press - that millions in her state voted for her, but also voted for HitlerPig.

I'm sure there are a few people who split their vote, but they have to be as rare as white squirrels. There are supposed to be millions of them, so many that HitlerPig even won EVERY battleground state (an exceptionally unlikely outcome), but I've never heard one actual voter claim they voted a straight Democratic ticket, except HitlerPig for president. It sounds ridiculous when you actually say it.

I wonder if this is Musks "you wouldnt have won the election without me" quote.

I do believe people were calling me alarmist for noticing strange patterns.

Like winning all 7 swing states? Your fucking kidding me right?

I'm very much against conspiracy theories, especially concerning our elections which are administered by many many independent entities. I was very concerned as I watched electronic voting machines - especially without paper trails - become more and more popular over the past 30 years. Even more as the industry consolidated and it came down to a handful of private, for-profit manufacturers.

The thing I've read about that is keeping the door of conspiracy open in my mind is the "drop off" rate, which has to do with the number of "President only" ballots, where only the President is chosen, and no down ballot votes are cast.

Apparently Trump's ballots have an unusually high - like statistically unlikely - drop off. And it's either only in or mostly in/more pronounced in swing states.

Even Chris Titus picked it up (3 hrs total, sorry)

https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs - Part 1 https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0 - Part 2

So I am very much a numbers and data guy. If there are anomalies, I am very happy to acknowledge them. I am also disgusted by Trump and how he is destroying the country, and voted for Kamala in 2024.

With those caveats out of the way, this whole article and lawsuit is cherry picked bullshit. The precincts in question (yes precincts, not counties as the article states), were extremely red in 2020 as well. Some precincts had 0 votes for Biden. Yet these were not questioned back then. Why? Because Biden won the larger election, so who cares? Why are these alleged anomalies not relevant in 2020, but suddenly relevant now? Bare in mind, these were precincts that went strongly for Clinton in 2016, and did a full reversal in 2020.

What was the difference between the two election cycles exactly? The village is 100% Hasidic. Clinton was viewed as pro Israel, and Biden as anti-israel. That is the explanation. This lawsuit will be dismissed, I am certain of it. As much as I would love to see Trump arrested and thrown in jail for something like this, the evidence is not there to support it.

You can check these numbers out yourself by checking the New York times detailed election map for each election year and searching for Ramapo, NY.

EDIT: Actually, upon further research, the shift from Clinton to Trump is much more interesting than I thought. Apparently she met with community leaders in her Senate race, during the same time her husband was president. Some community members at that time were involved in a criminal scandal involving a fraudulent Hasidic school at that time. She was overwhelmingly voted for by this town. Shortly after, her husband commuted these individuals sentences. So clearly the community remembered this. The town is called new square, you can read about the alleged quid pro quo scandal on Wikipedia.

Why didn't the democrats demand hand recounts when the election was initially called? It felt like they all just rolled over and accepted defeat.

Statistically it is very unlikely this would happen given the votes for other Democrats down ticket. It would be like betting on an old horse to win a race and somehow winning.

I always had a feeling that the election was a bit too quickly decided. I’ve said before that in the coming months and years after the 2024 election we would find out something fishy was happening.

This stuff has been going on for a loooong time:

Interview with Stephen Spoonamore on of the electronic voting issues that have been raised for a while now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRW3Bh8HQic

if you want to jump right to his explanation/comparison to his work with securing credit card transactions against "man in the middle" attacks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BRW3Bh8HQic#t=873

The filing also includes the revealing deposition of the late Michael Connell. Connell served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. Connell ran the private IT firm GovTech that created the controversial system that transferred Ohio's vote count late on election night 2004 to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush's unexpected victory. Connell died a month and a half after giving this deposition in a suspicious small plane crash.

Additionally, the filing contains the contract signed between then-Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell and Connell's company, GovTech Solutions. Also included that contract a graphic architectural map of the Secretary of State's election night server layout system.

Cliff Arnebeck, lead attorney in the King Lincoln case, exchanged emails with IT security expert Stephen Spoonamore. Arnebeck asked Spoonamore whether or not SmarTech had the capability to "input data" and thus alter the results of Ohio's 2004 election. Spoonamore responded: "Yes. They would have had data input capacities. The system might have been set up to log which source generated the data but probably did not."

Spoonamore explained that "they [SmarTech] have full access and could change things when and if they want."

Arnebeck specifically asked "Could this be done using whatever bypass techniques Connell developed for the web hosting function." Spoonamore replied "Yes."

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2319:new-court-filing-reveals-how-the-2004-ohio-presidential-election-was-hacked

Breakdown of why Electronic voting in general is incredibly insecure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI

Documentary going into Clint Curtis's story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhBtfiRKaVY

(the guy from this video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

Fractional Voting:

http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1/

HBO documentary Hacking Democracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7W7rHxTsH0

Does this mean libs will stop blaming voters?

our election was, literally, stolen. Trump and his fascists have spent years calling his loss to Biden “stolen” which ultimately harmed any real attempts at calling out future election results. many statisticians are sounding the alarm bells—something is wrong. the data doesn’t lie and the voting heavily implies manipulation. there is a group investigating our election results and making their findings public. they are very concerned with what they are uncovering.

Oops forgot to make the lie a little more believable.

I will point out that this cannot change the result of the presidential election, since Trump didn't win the state in question anyway.

In Volusia County, Florida during the 2000 election Al Gore received negative votes, and I'm sure we all remember how that turned out because everyone on this site is old as fuck so let's temper our excitement this time around.

Leftists and liberals all think they're somehow immune to conspiracy theories, but here we are. Nearly everyone commenting or voting in this thread has an opinion based on feelings, and they're looking for evidence to justify their beliefs. "I'm not one to believe conspiracy theories, but..." That's a load-bearing "but" there.

No really: stop for ten seconds and think about why you believe this. Be honest.

Yes, I'm aware of the video that's been linked repeatedly where they can't explain how a small percentage of Trump cultists only voted for Trump and no one else. Imagine that: voters who think the entire system is corrupt and Trump is their savior don't vote for anyone else.

Here's an actual recount in a swing state, and it found nothing.

And as korendian has been trying to tell you, New Square in Ramapo, NY is a tiny, 100% Hasidic village and votes as a monolithic bloc.

There is a strong expectation that residents of New Square will conform to community norms... Those who have not conformed voluntarily have faced vigilante justice, as exemplified by the New Square arson attack and other incidents.

I'm not saying the election was clean. It never is. Red states purge voters they shouldn't, they enact laws to discourage voters and make it more difficult, etc. And sometimes it actually is a conspiracy: 2000 is one example where it really was rigged for Bush through coordinated efforts.

But there's zero persuasive evidence for 2024. If I see some, I'll charge my mind. But not until then.

Edit: The down votes without comment or rebuttal just prove me right.

I remember asking a few weeks after the election if anyone at all was talking about it being rigged. It seemed at the time everyone just accepted the result. Only in the past month or so have I started seeing talk of it.

If a result like this was found in a swing state, I'd be sure it was malicious. In New York, that seems improbable. Someone clever enough to conduct the attack is unlikely to be stupid enough to employ it in a way that creates an obvious anomaly without changing the result.

Seems pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Like I hate the orange fuck as much as the next guy but this won't change shit and is a waste of time that could be spent doing something better.

These data

how the fuck is this "result" just now coming to light?

not that it'll amount to anything

Which county?

Edit: Rockland. Which is very much a possibility there.

Some algorithm probably takes votes away from a canadiate but you can't have negative votes. Someone forgot to insert the threshold killing the program.

Sounds musky.

Genuinely curious why time is being wasted on this? Is there any other evidence that suggests a good reason for even trying?