YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.
YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.
Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream -- people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. (This uses the same social media graph built before.) We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people (think nonsense reddit posts about conspiracies that sound like Markov chains of nonsense other people have said), or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).
The goal is to keep opinions we don't want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can, at which points they've gotten a head start on going viral and tend to capture a larger-than-otherwise share of media attention.
(All of the stuff above is basically the "standard" for online PR (usually farmed out to an LLC with a generic name working for the marketing firm contracted by the big firm; deniability is a word frequently said), once you're above a certain size.)
Also this,
“The opposition party is the media,” Steve Bannon, who helped run Trump’s 2016 campaign, told PBS Frontline five years ago. “And the media can only — because they’re dumb and they’re lazy — they can only focus on one thing at a time.”
So the solution, per Bannon? Overwhelm them.
“All we have to do is flood the zone,” he said. “Every day we hit them with three things. They’ll bite on one, and we’ll get all of our stuff done, bang, bang, bang. These guys will never — will never be able to recover. But we’ve got to start with muzzle velocity.”
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5289315/trump-week-in-review
Everybody is focusing on LA so nobody is reporting The One, Big, Beautiful Bill or the court case of 2024 voting machine tampering.
they needed a manufactered distraction, and this was it. no coincidence talks of the tariffs has suddenly disappeared from MSM, then the BBB was reported for like a week or 2 and then dropped. to focus on trump based distraction.
Only people who are against democracy say stuff like this.
Like which?
I mean this is seen all over. Spoiler crap is a big reason we are where we are. You pretty much have to assume this type of crap with all discourse now and realize that the big problems are wealth disparity and corps being given to much power along with that most people ultimately want a society were people have food and shelter and education and healthcare but they can be manipulated against their own values really. Its a crazy time.
The thing is, no one manipulated against their own values think they are. A quick glance at your upvotes* shows plenty agree, but among those are at odds with each other. And that's fine, we just need to be willing to listen to other opinions, and recognize no one has a truth monopoly, and none are free of our own cognitive biases.
Okay. I dont understand this thread. I for one advocate for violence against Nazis. I fully expect that "peaceful protest" will lead to juuuust enough capitulation by the Nazis to calm everyone down so they go home and let the Nazis further entrench their power while the protesters think they won. Someone in the thread mentioned the dissolution of BLM and Occupy by milquetoast shitlibs; without violence the same happens here IMO. @TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
What are we advocating for here?
Pure evil. They reference the banality of evil, but that only applies if you have no clue your part of it. That user is most definitely evil and immoral. Pretending like you just gave up and are doing it because you’re part of another group of people is just hiding behind a facade. They know what they’re doing is immoral, yet they call it amoral. They know what they’re doing is making things worse, yet they say FB is doing it and nobody thinks all those people are evil.
Pure evil.
Yeah it was a really wild read that then the other person agreed with them. It felt like reading psychopath diaries.
Are you advocating for the status quo?
"Here's how movements get derailed by trolls"
does exactly that
And you have the audacity to claim you're not our enemy? Ballsy.
This is some proper AI-grade reading comprehension and sentence-making. Just nothing to do with the post or anything happening online or offline.
Amazing, sort of. In a way.
Steve should flood his zone and by zone I mean his liver and by flood I mean drink dangerous amounts of alcohol
That's already happening. Karma seems to not exist for people without consciences.