This has always been the point.
It has never been about which restroom trans people use, it was always been about being able to harass and vilify trans people.
The right doesn't want to just enforce gender binary, they want to erase anything and anyone that falls outside it.
Don't expect any logic from regressives. What they want is not for trans people to use a specific bathroom. They want all trans people dead.
Once again, the point is to harass trans people out of public life altogether.
This isn’t about logic or fear, it’s hate and domineering. They’re nazis. No excuses.
Yeah. This kinda stuff might help sway some people but for the fascists drafting these bills, this is not a contradiction. The bathroom they want trans people to use is none. They want trans people to not exist.
Trans people are the 2025 jews.
The original Nazis came for the trans folks before the Jews.
It's fucking disgusting how similar it is and how few people see it
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/
I think bathrooms are such a common issue with bigotry because shitting is a vulnerable state where in nature makes us vulnerable to tooth and claw type predators. Therefore it's a psychological shortcut to appeal to danger and panic.
Forgive me for making an evolutionary psych argument, but I feel comfortable that I'm not overreaching.
nah, it's always been 100% about excluding people from public life with fearmongering and goes no deeper. gendered bathrooms are a modern contrivance, we didn't evolve to segregate ourselves when shitting for safety or whatever bullshit. you're only helping legitimize hate when you inject weird pseudoscientific bullshit narratives like this.
They dont care what bathroom a person uses. It's not about the restroom ... it's about legal harassment.
Also ... what the fuck are people doing to get gender checked and arrested? There is no law about obeying the gender sign (at least not in my state or any state I have been in). Is walking into the wrong bathroom a crime or something?
The bar owner harassed them personally. They charged them with trespassing and public intoxication, despite the fact they consumed no alcohol and were not breathalyzed.
Fuck these corrupt police, and fuck that bar owner.
It has increasing been made a crime in various states to various degrees. See the woman who was arrested in the Florida statehouse and the college bathroom ban in Ohio.
Dystopian. That's fucked.
American freedom is about getting arrested when peeing in the wrong public bathroom.
Republican laws working as Republicans intend.
Cruelty and oppression was always the point.
I know this is the least bad part of the story, but it stuck out anyway:
After a lengthy drive to the bar, Strobel said he stepped inside to use the men’s room. However, there were no stalls—only urinals, rendering it inaccessible to him as a trans man.
Precisely where are men supposed to shit in this establishment?
Thanks, much better than a meme.
i will always upvote erin reed & co.
This is dumb as f.
Just make all male bathrooms gender neutral. Bam crisis averted.
Changing only men's bathrooms is just asking for backlash. Just make every toilet an individual unisex half bathroom with floor to ceiling walls and doors. A toilet, a sink, and a mirror. No more silent mode shits, no more pee shyness. If raising the national minimum wage only made products go up by a few cents some bathroom construction loans will barely do the same. I'll pay an extra 10 cents for my burrito... Oh that's right they already have individual bathrooms. Airports, malls, amusement parks, stadiums, music venues? ¯\(ツ)/¯ get gud
At work they put in a bunch of these during a renovation a few years ago. Only problem is we hit hard times and didn't renovate more bathrooms so these are far away. I make the trek over to them when I need to poop though. So much nicer than the men's room.
If they changed building code so all new buildings did that it would solve the issue. but my solution won't change existing infrastructure. Its just a sign change.
because the point is still to impose arbitrary rules on us that force us to out ourselves so that we can be more easily identified and hate-crimed, and that user's tone-deaf fake-ally talk-over-the-queers-not-to-them clownworld-ass reply to me elsewhere in the thread makes it painfully obvious.
It's not dumb. It's exactly what they want: to remove trans people from public spaces entirely.
I would consider arbitrary rules that are intentionally impossible to follow based on hate is very very dumb.
no trans women would still get the shit beat out of them by phobes, because they outed themselves going in the "neutral" bathroom instead of the women's, and cis women who look "too masculine" would still be harassed (and worse) for using the "wrong" bathroom.
this is not a solution, this is just ignorant as hell about the actual problem, which was never actually about which bathroom people use. you should listen to trans people instead of whatever pussyfooting milquetoast "totally apolitical" white guy podcast gave you this stupid ass idea.
Sounds like recipe for jail time for the phobes. we all know the transpobes just want to hurt "the trans" but use the "protect women" as their bs message. My take fine then "take up the mantel" put them with you a-hole. If you melt like a snow flake or lash out it just proves how pathetic you are and it wasn't about "protecting" anyone just cruelty.
Besides there are legitimate reason why women would want to use another bathroom as an option. Ever see the women vs men bathroom line? Way longer on avg. Sometimes you got to go and jail time for going is bs.
We all knew this would happen.
None of this would happen if we just did it in public. Just saying. /s
Oh, no, not falling for this one again. I just got off the list.
They're obsessed with trans women.
That trans men also exist breaks them.
This would never have happened had a trans woman entered the men's.
I wouldn't be surprised if this idiot of a bar owner doesn't even realize trans men exist and assumed this dude was amab and female identifying or something.
I’m pretty sure that recent UK Supreme Court case ended up making it illegal for trans men to use any public restroom. My understanding is that it forces trans women to use the men’s but has a carve out saying that trans men can’t use the women’s.
Can you provide a source? I'm curious to read more.
The whole situation is a dehumanizing mess.
People forget trans men exist. We’re invisible. Fuck that judge, we know what pronoun the source is replacing.
They (person in photo) can grow better facial hair than me. Fuck me man
He*
the man in the photo? the one with large text stating that he is a man.
a man.
he.
he is a man.
the picture of a man has large text beneath it saying that the picture is of a man.
there is text below the picture of a man which indicates that he is a man.
it is quite clear from contents of the image and the text that this individual is a man. it is a clearly labeled picture of a man.
he is a man. he being the correct pronoun to use when referring to a man, such as the man in the picture with text clearly indicating that he is a man.
he is a man
(translation for cis people:
i know you probably said "they" out of an abundance of caution born of a sincere desire to not offend and i get it.
what we need you to 'get' is that we're all exhausted by this popular fake-ignorance pronoun game where people will do anything but gender us the way we present ourselves as long as they have plausible deniability to burn, and this is especially a problem for the guys.
please remember this and try to come from a place of understanding if and when someone mistakenly comes down hard on you: our enemies like to play dumb to fuck with us and it's hard to know the difference sometimes, and we understandably tend to err on the side of defending ourselves.
for easy reference: someone is a man, it's he/him. someone is a woman, it's she/her. regardless if "trans" is next to it or not. those of us that use other pronouns will politely let you know, and take no offense at you not knowing a thing you couldn't possibly know until you were told. you seem like an okay dude and im not mad at you in particular.)
SO TMEN DO EXIST, HUH
trans men. cool it with the fetish terminology, we're not porn categories we're people.
If I was visibly trans or questioned, I'd rather shit myself than go to a public bathroom at this point.
Not sure why you are getting down voted. I had friends faced with very uncomfortable choices if they were unable to get home at time.
Yeah. Idk, probably because I said I'm trans. Lol Haters gonna hate. But it really sucks that we have to go through this.
i don't pass at all. i just want to piss and leave as quickly as possible, and i hate doing the whole "use the potty sitting down like you have a pussy" song and dance to avoid drawing attention, i ain't got time to spend putting on a stupid show of using the bathroom "correctly" to mollify the normies. so i just ignore the stupid ass sign and use the damn urinal like the penis haver that i am and that i am absolutely fine with being. usually nobody cares. if the establishment has a problem with me using the bathroom i get a bottle or can off the ground, fill it with piss, and empty it on their doorstep so everyone tracks it in cause fuck em.
