We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink

The nationalization of SpaceX will mean a slowdown in development, like in the case of NASA.

Don't give bail-outs to billionaires.

literally nasa

If not Musk should be forced from his roles in these companies. You cannot be a defense contractor and do ketamine.

Arrest Musk on violation of controlled substances acts, file immigration violation charges, invalidate his ownership shares due to securities fraud, as he falsified education and naturalization forms.

Or just emminent domain the shit. The Law is just made up right now.

No, they're fine remaining as private companies. If the government wants to better control over the companies then they can pass regulation and if they want total control then they can build their own alternatives. Nationalization of companies should never be used as a political weapon.

I've been saying this for years. the footprint that spaceX represents in national launch authority is out of whack to say the least.

I think that's a complicated question. It's both yes and no. Yes, we should nationalize them. No, nationalizing them should not be by tRump. That sets the precedent, or at least reinforces, the concept that the architecture of industry can be nationalized as payback for petty political squabbling. They should be nationalized, however, because fElon has proven himself to be unstable, reckless, petty, and a risk to the nation.

And the international customers, what about them? The ground stations, POPs, and terminals in other countries, hmmmm?

When's the last time the US nationalised something?

Agreed. These are things that should be of the people.

One way to get businesses to move their factories back to the US due to tarrifs: Start nationalizing them.

/s

Yeah, let's give the trump administration the power to seize companies it doesn't like, that is a great idea that def won't be abused all the time

I don’t think the majority of Americans understand what that means. They’ll just scream “commies!” And raise their maga flag.

But the idea of a starlink-like business owned by UN would be nice, and not an American corporation owned by a nepobaby Elmo.

Has anyone considered funding NASA?

They made rockets that didn't explode with duct tape and a TI-83 calculator.

You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.

The oligarchs wouldn't like that precedent but they might go for purchasing SpaceX since it is owned by a foreigner. Kind of like with TikTok....

Step one Musk needs to be arrested and sent to El Salvador.

Starlink should not just be nationalized but internationalized.
It is internet for everyone on earth, not everyone in the USA.

Every larger nation deploying their own constellation would be a pointless waste of resources, and every smaller nation having to find reliable partner-nations to tap into for that internet access would inevitably lead to people ending up without access due to political games.

Low orbit satellite constellations are the perfect candidate for sharing, they would literally sit unused over most of their orbits otherwise.

We? No. USA can if it wants that shit.

Has US nationalized anything this millenia? I really don't see that ever happening

Yeah I mean the tax payers have literally already paid for all of both SpaceX and Starlink. The public paid for it, the public should own it.

Just having such wealth and thus power in hands of singular humans is risk to all of humanity. With musk you are but big enough drug fueled temper tantrum away from pretty important infrastructure coming crashing down.

Fold it in into nasa.

Giving companies to the state doesn't always work well. However giving companies to the workers does.

Quite ironic from people constantly accusing their political adversaries to be communists...

Pedo-nation

NOW they complain about giving Musk money?
Most of the 38 billion was given by Biden.

No thanks, demolish Leon Hitler's space program and bury it. NASA should be the US leader for space missions and not a South African neo-Nazi sack of shit.

Never gonna happen under republicans... or dems as they are sell outs too.

See what we should do......is look to the french for inspiration on guillotine designs. Why would anyone not want to get rid of this asshole? Why would anyone like him?

Yeah. Let’s give Trump that power.

imagine how many more rockets we could reuse if the NASA subdivision formerly known as SpaceX did literally any of the standard, rigorous fault-checks.

This is what happens when you meddle in politics

I would suggest that maybe you should leave SpaceX alone, if you want to still have a space program.

Maybe think about to nationalize healthcare insurance, it seems to be something more usefull

Oh my god, please. Just to see the temper tantrum from Musk.

why stop there?

do it to meta, twitter, amazon, etc

seize it via eminent domain.

Nationalization is so communist thing to do.

Hang on a minute, equivalents of SpaceX and Starlink could have naturally grown out of NASA, it was the obvious place for them to come from but NASA did not show that innovation and nationalisation of them might dilute their abilities. For clarity I am not suggesting the innovation came from Musk, he has no science or engineering, his talents are grifting, showmanship and taking credit for other people's work, he is a natural figurehead though and seemed quite clear thinking until he lost his mind.

Maybe... But never going to happen. Privitization and capitalism work the other way in the imperial core.

Dissolve them.

Also the Tesla charging infrastructure!

Few words are dirtier to Republicans than "nationalize". They must be torn between following their god-emperor's hurt feelings and allowing Musk's company to be taken over by the government. The best I see them doing is cancelling all contracts and subsidies with SpaceX/Tesla and passing them off to its competitors.

Do that, so that when the US Gov. falls SpaceX and Starlink does too.