Opposition to the butchery in Gaza

According to a recent pen state uni poll, 80% of Israeli society support the forced removal of Palestinians from Gaza. If we follow the reasoning in this post, the Israeli society is kinda locco ◑﹏◐

Liberals just can't get enough of that thought policing.

I dont oppose donald trump because im a democrat or a liberal.

I oppose donald trump because im not a fucking psychopath.

Opposing donald trump is so obvious, so common sense, such a bare-minimum, fundamental-level, being a human 101 position that if it isn't immediately self-evident to you after learning the basic facts, your problem is, much, much deeper than whatever ideology or bias or prejudice you might happen to have. There's something wrong with you as a person.

This astrology grifter is phony AF. She suddenly became political a few years ago by promoting the invasion of ukraine. Peak russian asset.

Notice the implied anti-semitism and missing zionism. It's a pattern.

Please don't promote this crap just because it sounds "good". Free Palestine.

• https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2925449-the-complete-book-of-astrology
• https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/11/a-closer-look-at-the-prose-of-caitlin-johnstone/
• https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/the-right-wing-palestine-grifters-part-134534937/

I mean.... I've been saying similar stuff for a while. I'm not on anyone's side specifically. I live far enough away to not be affected by the situation and for my opinion to have no affect on the situation. Simply put: it's not useful for me to have an opinion, so I don't have one.

HOWEVER: I always have and always will oppose the unnecessary death and cruelty happening. Doesn't matter where, or who, or when... If some group is killing another group, I don't like that.

The only good reason to use violence on a global stage is to stop violence; aka self defense. Like what's happening to the Ukraine, as a simple example. The Ukraine is well within their right to defend themselves and their land from a foreign invader. I am opposed to the Russian army marching across international borders and seizing land by killing whomever tries to stop them and/or whomever is there. Not cool. I dislike Russia's actions there. I don't dislike Russia's or Russians, I don't have a problem with any individual person. I have a problem with the decision that was made at the highest levels of government to invade.

Same thing here. I could not care less which side is comprised of what people's of what culture or religion.... I just don't like that one group is invading/bombing/killing the other. I have no animosity towards those defending themselves, trying to not get killed...

I don't know why everyone needs to make every opinion on the matter a question of race, religion, or whatever. I don't care, just stop murdering eachother.

Isn't being against war and genocide the same as anti-imperialism? I hate how saying "War is bad" has become so controversial and extremist.

how do I boost on lemmy

I think there will be consequences for Israel's crimes, just not today.

Israel is destroying its reputation and its future with its current actions. Yet no power in the world can stop them today, because they have waay too many weapons.

by this logic Allies committed genocide against Germans in ww2

let's discuss why people are supporting governments, politicians and companies backing the genocide

You'll find this kind of bs from every extremist faction, "oh you support Gaza, immigration, human rights and welfare, you must be a woke tankie communist" and "oh you're not an anti-capitalist far-left anti-money extremist commie tankie, you must be a dirty fascist" basically a summary or american politics🤦‍♂️ 🤡

Edit: the downvotes are just proving my point lol I'm literally saying the exact same thing said in the screenshot. There's not just two opposing extremes there's nuance to things, don't fight stupidity with stupidity, just cause magas fascist and extreme doesn't mean I should go find the equally opposing extreme.

I don't disagree with Trump just cause he's Trump, I disagree with his actions and the bs he says, and based off of those actions I think he's a knobhead and do not like him. When he pardoned Ross Ulbricht I didn't say, well it was done by Trump so it was evil. Do I think he did it for his own personal motives or gain and votershare? Yes, but I do believe he deserved freedom, and Trump did it for the wrong reasons.

Americans don't get it's not the centre of the universe sometimes.

You shouldn't blame Zionism on a mental illness. Zionism is a choice to be awful.

Ahhh are we just gonna ignore hamas’s butchery? I’m even more not a psychopath because I oppose that as well as Israel’s. y’all messed up for leaving that out.

"Yeah but Palestinians are subhuman and therefore don't deserve human empathy" - Israel, probably actually

Animal stereotypes of Palestinians in Israeli discourse - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_stereotypes_of_Palestinians_in_Israeli_discourse

This will be a terrible mark on human history. When the world watched as internet personalities sailed into Gaza to provide aid. When we did nothing as women and children starved to death before our eyes.

Who will be ignored next?

Yes, but I'm also a commie lol.

Don't bother with people stuck in earlier stages of development. All they hear are excuses and immorality

Some of the hatred here needs to be directed at Iran; which never seems to come up in these conversations. Iran has always wanted this tension. The Palestinians are their pawns. The level of their suffering is too damn high.

I don't know how the average minimum wage worker can have the time to even care about world events when they are constantly under the threat of getting fired and stuggle to afford food.

I am for a 2 state solution, and a version of the Neuremburg Trials for both the IDF and Hamas for their crimes against humanity. Gaza should be a part of Palestine, as with the West Bank, with the settlers in both having to move back, and return the land to it's owners prior. Palestine and Israel seperated by UN peacekeepers at both sides, is my solution for preventing further invasions. Free and fair elections for Palestine, should occur. Both those who think 1 state as Israel or Palestine are insane.

For real. I genuinely like Israel and have many israeli friends still but the incompetence of Israel government is so staggering it's imposdible to align with even if you think Hamas deserves nothing but be deleted and forgotten by all of history.

This person LOVES HITLER!

-The ADL and MOST American Politicians!

OMG, so antisemitic... /s

I also do not oppose them for those same reasons.

Also all of those reasons (except love hamas/hate jews), but not just because of those.

Nah, like usual, religion is solely to blame here.