I miss forums. Reddit and discord and gb ruined it.
There are still plenty of small websites around. The Naive Weekly newsletter is a great way to find out about them.
The internet didn't want you. You used the internet at your own risk. You were the outsider there, and I miss that. Anything friendly was still trying to figure out how to sell things to you on the internet.
The new Internet is shitty. Like dirty meth.
Fuck you, yes it was perfect.
bring back geocities!
With some similarities to federation, I'm grateful to be able to syndicate to both neocities and nekoweb. Long live the web and indienet!
Idk I might've been able to live without seeing the Mr. Hands video, back in the day.
So glad RSS is still around. My beloved
There's still rss.
There's still email.
There are still blogs.And there's gemini.
In México very little News sources use RSS, at most they have Flipboard accounts or Twitter :(
This also applies to information about the government, where most of the politicians and other elements use Twitter :/
You can't even get regulatory bodies to have an RSS feed. In my last job I was really annoyed because the only way you could figure out if the EU had changed their chemical regulations is by being in either a very specific LinkedIn group or just checking their website again and again.
It's hard to write software for regulatory compliance when the regulations and data schema change seemingly at random.
Sometimes you just have to dig a little deeper because they don't really want you using RSS. If you give me some examples I can take a look
True elsewhere – there's no profit in RSS I guess.
It is still around though and you can RSS-ify some sites.
i donno man. i still use rss, and they solved tracking by not putting the article in the xml, just a link that ends in source rss.
Or putting a weird (and illegal) consent dialogue the reader can't crawl. Golem.de does that, one of the biggest german tech newspapers.
Isn't that a legitimate use-case for RSS (specifically Atom) though? My blog's feed just points to the plain-HTML pages with the post. It seems wasteful to put my entire site in a single, polled file.
We need to reject web3 and create web 1.5. a modern version of web 1.0, without the bullshit and platforms.
Join the uBlock+NoScript revolution! We don't even see the social media buttons.
Absolutely miss that old internet.
It had flaws aplenty, but anyone could pick up a “…for dummies” book and cadge together a website. Plenty of free website generators and hosts, too. All those personal pages, family pages, “Hello World!” pages, personal hobbies and small businesses…. Then of course the newsgroups, freeware apps and tools from generous people filling in the gaps in available software…yeah. It was completely unpolished, wild, and unpredictable…but it was awesome, available, and far more egalitarian.
I do miss it, the zeitgeist anyway. Sure. Modern speeds and frontends are nice, but everyday people are priced out and corralled, monetized and stalked. We’ve become the coppertops of The Matrix; exploited, mined, and willingly, in some cases, enslaved.
It is easier than it's ever been to host your own website. You could have what most personal websites were like in the 00s without ever once coming out of the free tier in Azure. Domains are still gonna cost you, but actual hosting is pennies.
Yes, I don’t disagree that it’s not hard, especially with all the free templates available. Today, however, the odds of anyone ever randomly finding your personal self-hosted website are essentially zero. You don’t have any SEO, no adspace to earn higher search engine priority, nothing. Someone would have to specifically search for you/your site to find you. That’s unlike the early web where your site might randomly show up in a search for whatever hobby/business/interest that you might have included in site text or “about” in the HTML.
Actually, it was probably kind of a boon for us nerds, because cool people would come to us and ask us to make their webpages for them. Now Zuck etc. does it for them...
There's more computing power than ever but seemingly fewer services than ever.
And it's not like there was any shortage of dummies that actually did, either!
No, there weren’t. But that wasn’t a problem because they could be avoided, or they were curiosities. Not like today, where social media keeps shoving them in front of you at every opportunity.
RSS still works pretty well.
As does everything else in the list. It's just that almost no one uses it, because people don't mind the not owning in exchange of the content.
The "old internet" still exists mostly. People have moved on to other things. You can still use IRC, Usenet, RSS, BBS, Forums... they all exist. They may not be as popular.. but a lot of the old web tech is still out there.
If anyone really cares, gopher is still somewhat alive.
The old internet died when we started gamifying human interaction.
Get rid of up/down votes. Get rid of reputation points. Get rid of Emojis. Get rid of all that shit. That shit has lead to dopamine overload, and the extremism in human interaction both on and offline.. cause people don't just talk to each other anymore. Humans, on the whole, just regurgitate ideas and comments back and forth that previously got high marks, thus getting them high marks. People tend to be afraid to speak unpopular but necessary truths because they are scared of their magic fairy points being reduced by an onslaught of downvotes/dislikes/whatevers, Or god forbid something you said be misconstrued and a whole hate train pile on you because you have 30 downvotes so obviously you are wrong and evil and bad, thus resulting in interaction being skewed ever further towards more and more extremes in content because of the incessant need to fish for that next hit of the gamified reward systems.
Its toxic as fuck.
Human interaction shouldnt be gamified. It should just..exist.
Why no emojis? Personally, I've always felt like they were just a better way of expressing a person's emotion or meaning that's a bit more than plain text can easily describe.
Have an... Errr... Upvote.
You're right, it also highly goes against a lot of small groups, neurodivergent with different understanding etc.
It's literally out of control with no corrective.
But yay internet points.
Voting is great though. It helps sort wheat from chaff.
... Is what i would like to say, but maybe that only works in smaller communities. I know a YouTuber who is currently getting baselessly harassed by popular assholes and she probably has an insane number of dislikes.
Voting is great though. It helps sort wheat from chaff.
Except it doesnt.
It just reinforces blind group think, no thought or reason. Upvotes don't make people more right, downvotes don't make people more wrong. Its just thoughtless highschool cliquey shit, that was intentionally created to manipulate users into conflict to provoke more engagement.. Theres a reason this upvote/downvote shit started on ad driven social media... Only you get to do it all hidden behind the anonymity of a button.
emojis are the problem? 🥺🥺🥺😭
Blogs never begged for dopamine
The little counter I put on my page certainly did! Got so excited when it reached 100, even though it was mostly me.
But you never made an onlyfans to channel more traffic and then eventually get caught up in a cartel and get owned and sold by a pimp even though on paper it looked as if you were making your own choices.
I still use my feed reader ever day.
Forums. Good old days.
I miss USENET. I mean, I know it's still there, but last I checked it was 99% pirated media and porn.
Well I'm sold.
Is see no problem there.
Haven't posted anything in ages, but I still semi-frequently check up on SomethingAwful. I keep it as my browser home page. It is alive and well.
past tense
I still use these things. People who post this shit are telling on themselves.
We used to make our own WEB PAGES!
Also, you didn't need to have a mobile phone just to sign up on a site.
Bring back local BBSes. With monthly GTs.
Catch you at the inn with no guards, how bout that?
I still is if you avoid the dumbassery of social media.
Still is.
Email may not have throttled you but your 9600 baud modem sure did.
"email" also might not throttle you, but every single (actual) mail server on earth will haha
I recently set up freshrss and have been digging it. It's not perfect, but definitely as good as Google reader was.
rss2email is great also... simple concept- run the program as a scheduled task, it checks for any updated css feeds, then sends you an email with the new ones.
Pretty sure podcasts “tracked" you RSS usage since there's an entire analytics industry around podcasts driven through RSS but you agree with the sentiment.
Guess I'm the only old-school ThrottleMail user who used to follow The Dopamine Fiend on Xanga.
I miss vBulletin boards.
Where do you find cool blogs? I run a blog myself, and have come across a few cool ones, but is there a place where people promote their blogs and where I can find blogs I might like?
Not exactly pure blogs, but random web 1.0 sites. There's some real gems in there.
I was there when the internet was bastardized.
It was like watching Rome fall.
None of the things listed have disappeared. Rome didn't fall, it's still alive and well, we are just in city nearby with some people complaining that it's not like Rome.
Bring back Livejournal. It was free therapy and you could be your messy self.
It was just the first taste of a sweet poison.
What kind of pages get indexed?
Pages must be simple in design. Simple HTML, non-commerical sites are preferred. Pages should not use much scripts/css for cosmetic effect.
