To join Facebook these days, one must record a video selfie

To confirm your identity...

Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.

For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I've never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn't complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn't date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.

Fuck Meta.

You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there's no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.

I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.

I googled "3d face generator", clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol

I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.

"We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes."

Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.

Video selfie my ass

That probably won't work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.

These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.

This is the reason i haven't delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn't need to go through any of this shit.

Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn't let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.

I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.

Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.

I get it. They want to combat bots and potentially even detect if a person is old enough to use the platform. However Facebook has eroded absolutely any trust that there's no way I'd give them this. Not that I use Facebook anyway.

I didn't have a Facebook account before. I sure as fuck am not getting one now.

I have an Instagram account where I just lurk, no posting, no following, no likes. At my last sign in there was some message about my account being restricted for supporting extremists or some bullshit and I would need to submit a photo of my ID.

I also just closed it directly. But I need to delete my Meta Accounts some day

Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.

Haven't had an account since

Where is the #Fediverse #craigslist alternative? Lets get going, people!

So full face capture how is this not a violation of privacy? You know they're keeping that shit.

I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don't even disagree with them!

Just want to add my two cents.

Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.

However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.

Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.

Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.

eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.

Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay's lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.

I don't even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it's all a giant multi-corporate game that's been played for 30 years.

Then all kinds of different "out of the box" storefronts started to appear.

Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji "honest". They've gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.

It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.

That said, I'm not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.

On one hand (I'm very biased towards the seller's perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It's been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there's no reason to do that when you're buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.

On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I'm not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.

I really don't know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don't know what's needed here.

Looks like we found a good use case for facial generative ai

This clearly abilist against headless Americans

The infuriating part is people willing to use Facebook at all.

And Facebook marketplace and buy nothing are helpful. We need to get people off that crappy platform.

Ah, hell no.

ofc not to train ai

What’s next? Fingerprints? Criminal record? DNA? Retina scans? It’s like people are joining CIA and not a social media site

Who is actually creating a legitimate Facebook account at this point?

I moderate a few groups on Facebook, and every account I see for new members that was created within the last few years is a spammer. The people who wanted Facebook accounts already have them. Very very few actual human beings are signing up for new legitimate accounts at this point.

Facebook should just close the new account option. They're working toward AIs talking to each other and won't need human interaction any more anyway.

There are no more excuses, people who say that these services are easier to use are stupid

It's going to require DNA samples in my lifetime.

Pretty sure Instagram also requires something similar in some cases. I tried to make an account recently to see an artist's full postings and it eventually asked me to verify I am a human by submitting a selfie picture. Abso-fucking not. It did "promise" they would delete it within 30 days...

Absolute clown show.

Ease of use is a forgotten artform it seems

Guess the silver lining of this particular instance of dystopian tech-bro fascist nightmare stuff is that it causes more friction, and less people to join up.

Let them continue filling the site with bots. Dont use that garbage.

I was going to sign up a couple of years ago for the same reason - marketplace - but they wanted a picture selfie then and that was enough to stop me.

Oh no thanks I'm going to pass on that

The same thing happened to me recently. I used my friend's phone to play this video in front of the camera, and it worked.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-21/video-selfie-verification-process-for-account/104499702

Are there any fediversians out there familiar with friendica? From what I can tell, it looks like a FOSS equivalent to Facebook. I was never really into Facebook or Instagram, so on the surface it seems to tick the boxes, but I appreciate they have addiction tier levels of interaction with the majority of people around me, so differences will be glaring for hardcore users.

My partner is an artist, and she's been trialling pixelfed for me; all seems to be going smoothly, but the older generations are FB diehards, so if I have any chance of adoption, it has to be something closer to that experience.

I'm looking to potentially spin up an instance for friends and family to migrate to. They currently have the desire due to the stream of enshittification we're seeing; but people are fickle and I've no doubt that desire can be extinguished by the slightest inconvenience. so any insight on what's good and what's missing regarding friendica (or other FB FOSS alternatives), is definitely appreciated.

I left FB before the pandemic and don't regret it. When I still had an account, I had to verify my account by sending them my DL. I did it but blanked out my address and DL #. That was invasive enough. This is just insane.

eventually they will want a dna sample

So you're forced to give them potential blackmail i?

lol wot

Would signing up with a PC instead of the mobile app solve that? A lot of PC's don't have webcams.

I left Facebook in 2009 or 2010 or so, but I attempted to register a facebook account for my business over the weekend. I can confirm, it wanted a selfie of my business. Wasn't sure what to do with that, so I still don't have a facebook account for my business.

Fuck that shit.

You know what's funny about that? Facebook banned me several months ago claiming a problem with community guidelines despite the fact that I was only using it to connect to an app that required it to save progress.

Leave it to Fuckerberg

Maybe call a friend for help? That's my strategy and I have an active account. I just didn't want to look at it

use AI

The dickvid potential is there.

I wish I didn't have to use Facebook.

What's the point when the intent is to make most users on there AI bots anyways

Huh. F u Facebook.

Glad I kept my last burner account

I gave up on Facebook when they banned my account for the second time after providing evidence that I exist in both cases.

Technically, my account is still "under review", for the past 8 years.

I used this name, Mystik Incarnate, because, believe it or not, there are more people who know me by this name, compared to how many know me by my legal name.

I remember that Facebook challenged my name back in the day, like 10+ years ago. I took a form of ID and made it say "Mystik Incarnate" as my name, sent that in, and they unblocked my account for a while. A few years later and they did it again. By then, I was already on the fence whether or not I wanted to maintain a Facebook account... But I submitted basically the same thing and..... Well... It's still "being reviewed".

I do have an account under my legal name, mainly as a collector of messages for people that know me professionally or something that are trying to reach out. I check it every few months at most; but that account has no friends, no connections, nothing. I only keep it so people can message me. I don't use their apps or anything, I only log in on the website and usually incognito so that they can't track me across the web.

Every time I see someone's logged in Facebook account, I'm disgusted by how cancerous it has become. Anyone who reaches out to me on that platform I usually try to have them connect with me by email, or some other chat program that's more trustworthy.

Fuck Meta.

At least they didn't ask you for butt sharpies.

Is there a good 2nd hand market beside FB now? We are buying our first house and will be needing some stuff once we move in. My account is long gone and my wife's is deactivated, close to closing it out. We have some good antique and thrifts around us, but my SIL gets killer deals on FB market.

Sadly it does seem to be very popular but I am sure there are some niche forums specific for certain items like tech related ones which also has a marketplace for tech products, audiophile ones for audio gear etc. I joined one to buy something and ended up being a part of the great community now so hopefully something works out for you as well.

Are you sure about this?

This is a procedure they use when you get locked out of your account.

This is not really the invasion of privacy it seems when you compare it to everything else facebook will do with your information.

I needed to make an account recently, if you make it via a proper computer you get this and it sends it as an "appeal".. Which means they werent clever enough to separate new account creation from actual appeals. So of course what happens is it goes to some call center in some poor part of the world where they're not smart enough to know the difference or dont care, they hit deny and you get perma banned.

This is not the same if you sign up via an app, which is amazingly stupid but whatever.

Ironically i learned about this by watching youtube videos for scammers on how to make fake facebook accounts.

Of course i immediately uninstalled the app, because i dont want that cancer on my phone.

I used to do gig work online. Everything was fine for two years, then they suddenly required the same shit for identity verification, so I quit.

According to my experience Facebook ads are now becoming scam more and more. Like they just use AI voice and animated videos for ads and customer buy it. That product is mostly trash not usable.

Horrible

Yeah they can kiss my ass. Video selfie. Fuck that.

Youtube also does this

Sucks. Facebook is trash. All ads are scammer mostly and all comments anywhere are just bots. It is the worst marketing platform.

Google does similar, stating it’s for safety.

Oh HELL no

Wow. And here I thought MS all-screenshotting garbage was the peak of fucking over. Guess I need a bigger basket of popcorn

Ran into this same exact problem. So frustrating.