Shallow enough for him to drown

Well the short guy was also a total fuckwad

Well the short guy was also a total ~~fuckwad~~ Farquaad
- Whooosh
- I hope it's a deliberate team effort that you have exactly 12 upvotes right now
The reality of the situation for most short men who complain about women not liking them because of their height.
- Short man syndrome is very real unfortunately
*Farquaad
- I never connected those dots before 🤣
- Yes that is the joke

I never thought about it like this, but lord farquaad is absolutely an incel.

I mean, it was also a fascist or an ogre.

A fascist or an ogre you genuinely have a lot in common with
- Including that she was an ogre, too. She would have expected Lord Farquaad to kill her once he found out.

The "message" of Shrek is pretty iffy.

Looks really are important
Ugly green people should only be with other ugly green people.
Not all ugly people are bad, but bad people are definitely ugly (short being ugly, of course).

I thought the message was that ogres had layers and parfait was really delicious.
- Also, donkeys talk and cats do too but with a Spanish accent
Mmm that feels like a pretty big stretch. The whole point is that Fiona loves Shrek for who he is, not what he looks like. She didn't become an "ugly green person", because she was beautiful to Shrek and Shrek was beautiful to her.
Also, even if the idea was short=ugly (which I don't think it was, more just a king with a big ego and small stature), Shrek 2 is completely centered around Shrek feeling insecure next to what turns out to be a conventionally attractive bad guy.
Not all ugly people are bad, but bad people are definitely ugly (short being ugly, of course).
Well there’s only one bad person in Shrek 1, so that’s not really a good sample. If we move to the sequels there’s Charming who’s good looking but also an ass.

Yes but have you seen ogre dong?

Shrek may have the personality of an ogre, but it seemed much preferable over that of Farquad's!

If you make fun of someone's physical trait that they have no control over, are you being a good person?

Not at that particular moment at least. I don't think that rises to the level of you are a bad person as a whole.
- How bad do you have to be to be considered an all around bad person? How should we weight different kinds of bad (stealing candy from a kid, vs graffiti on an ol granny's shirt)? Is there an objective measure of badness and how to sum it?

Pretty telling that they think that that's the only downside of the literal cartoon villain

Yeah, and so was Fiona

Neither you chose to be, so who cares ?

True. I chose to be a huge, handsome guy so I chose neither and don't care about these losers